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#Independent of the ABG selected, choose the '''worst''' pH from any of the blood gases.
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#I see I have two different guides here.  The above and also another from previous guide which collectors are following. 
| field_name = Ap_pH
*Sending out a survey & will post clarification.  [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST)
| CCMDB_label = ph
| CCMDB_tab = Apache
| element_description = The acidity or basicity of the patient's arterial blood.
| in_table = L_Log table
| data_type = number
| datafield_length = single
| program_collecting = CC
| created_raw = Raw
| data_element_sort_index = 70
}}


It is an element of the [[Arterial blood gas (APACHE)]].


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== [[Arterial blood gas (APACHE)]] instructions ==
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There are special collection instructions for [[Arterial blood gas (APACHE)]], refer there for further info.
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{{APACHE physiological variable
|style="color:#0000FF" height="67"  | Instruction followed?
|AP phys name= ph
| align="center" valign="bottom" | Use the PH from the worst ABG result you have selected for that patient?
|AP phys unit=
| valign="bottom" | Use the worst PH independant of the ABG you select?
|AP phys absMax=7.99
|AP phys warnMax=7.97
|AP H4= >=7.7
|AP H3= >=7.6 and <7.7
|AP H1= >=7.5 and <7.6
|AP 0= >=7.33 and <7.5
|AP L2= >=7.25 and <7.33
|AP L3= >=7.15 and <7.25
|AP L4= <7.15
|AP phys warnMin=6
|AP phys absMin=6
}}


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== History ==
| height="14"  valign="bottom" | Jackie
There have been different collection practices used when selecting the PH value, the original APACHE II user manual (version 1.0) is as above and that is how it should be collected.
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[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 18:19, 12 February 2009 (CST)
 
{{Discussion}}
*'''Guideline discrepancy APACHE PH''':[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST)
*When selecting a PH for your APACHE score do you:
*a. use the PH from the worst BLOOD GAS result you had selected for that patient
*-or-
*b. do select the worst PH which is independent of the ABG you used?[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:01, 12 February 2009 (CST)
 
'''*NORINE-VIC'''
*I use the worst pH of the same ABG, I do not extract another pH from another gas as that would be stacking the deck wouldn’t it? Basically I choose the gas that would score the highest for the apache as a lower/higher pH can sometimes count more than a lower p02. Feb 12.09
'''Jackie Winestock_VIC'''
*Anyway, I look at the worst ph independant of the blood gas that I use. Jackie. Feb 12.09
 
 
 
Refer to [[General Collection Guidelines for Apache II#When to collect, which value to use]] for how and when to collect this.
 
 
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[[Category: APACHE II]]

Latest revision as of 15:48, 2019 September 12

Data Element (edit)
Field Name: Ap_pH
CCMDB Label: ph
CCMDB tab: Apache
Table: L_Log table
Data type: number
Length: single
Program: CC
Created/Raw: Raw
Start Date: 1988-07-11
End Date: 2300-01-01
Sort Index: 70

The acidity or basicity of the patient's arterial blood.

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Legacy implementation right in the table

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It is an element of the Arterial blood gas (APACHE).

Arterial blood gas (APACHE) instructions

There are special collection instructions for Arterial blood gas (APACHE), refer there for further info.


Apache Physiological Variable
variable name ph
unit
absolute max allowed 7.99
warning max 7.97
high score 4 >=7.7
high score 3 >=7.6 and <7.7
high score 2
high score 1 >=7.5 and <7.6
score 0 >=7.33 and <7.5
low score 1
low score 2 >=7.25 and <7.33
low score 3 >=7.15 and <7.25
low score 4 <7.15
AP phys warnMin 6
AP phys absMin 6

APACHE Score

This value is used to generate the APACHE Score.

Collecting Apache physiological variables

There are some specific rules to follow in choosing which one of several lab results to collect.

See APACHE physiological variable collection for details.

Cross Chcks

Rules described in APACHE_physiological_variable_collection#Exceptionally_high_or_low_values are implemented by Check APACHE physiological variable high low.

History

There have been different collection practices used when selecting the PH value, the original APACHE II user manual (version 1.0) is as above and that is how it should be collected.

Data Integrity Checks

Data Integrity Checks (automatic list)

 AppStatus
Check APACHE physiological variable high lowCCMDB.accdbimplemented

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