Pneumonia, NOS: Difference between revisions

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{{ICD10 dx

|ICD10 Code=J18

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{{ICD10 transition status

| OldDxArticle = VAP - Ventilator Associated Pneumonia; HAP-Hospital Acquired Pneumonia; CAP-Community Acquired Pneumonia

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| InitialEditorAssigned = Lori Lovell

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~~{{ICD10 dx~~

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~~| ICD10 Code=J18~~

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~~{{ICD10 category|Infectious disease}}{{ICD10 category|Potential infection}}{{ICD10 category|Respiratory}}{{ICD10 category|Pneumonia}}~~

== Additional Info ==

*Mainly, ~~this code is~~ used when ~~it's believed an infectious~~ pneumonia ~~is present,~~ but ~~even~~ the ~~''type''~~ of organism is not ~~known.~~

Pneumonia, NOS should be used when there is a presumed pneumonia but the team is unsure what kind of organism is involved (bacteria, virus, fungus). So simply not having an organism from culture doesn't necessarily mean that Pneumonia, NOS should be used. If, for example, the team is assuming that it's a bacterial pneumonia (and treating it as such), but doesn't know which bacterium, then use Pneumonia, bacterial + Infectious organism, unknown

~~{{discussion}}~~ Pneumonia, NOS is ~~also in the "potential infection" category. I can~~'~~t think of~~ a ~~situation in which~~ pneumonia ~~wouldn~~'t ~~be considered an actual infection. I am worried about forgetting to add the pathogen. I will often code this on my first read of the chart~~, ~~before a culture has been sent. Because there is no cross check to remind me~~, ~~I am worried that I will sometimes forget to go back and add a culture result.[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]] 12:17~~, ~~2019 April 24 (CDT)~~

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== Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==

*[[Eosinophilic pulmonary disease (pulmonary eosinophilia), NOS]]

*[[Pneumonia Etiology not clear]]

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+|ICD10 Code=J18
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+{{ICD10 category|Infectious disease}}
+{{ICD10 category|Infection requiring pathogen}}
+{{ICD10 category|Respiratory}}
+{{ICD10 category|Pneumonia}}
 {{ICD10 transition status
 | OldDxArticle = VAP - Ventilator Associated Pneumonia; HAP-Hospital Acquired Pneumonia; CAP-Community Acquired Pneumonia
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-{{ICD10 dx
-| MinimumCombinedCodes =
-| ICD10 Code=J18
-| BugRequired= optional
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-{{ICD10 category|Infectious disease}}{{ICD10 category|Potential infection}}{{ICD10 category|Respiratory}}{{ICD10 category|Pneumonia}}
 == Additional Info ==
-*Mainly, this code is used when it's believed an infectious pneumonia is present, but even the ''type'' of organism is not known.
+Pneumonia, NOS should be used when there is a presumed pneumonia but the team is unsure what kind of organism is involved (bacteria, virus, fungus). So simply not having an organism from culture doesn't necessarily mean that Pneumonia, NOS should be used. If, for example, the team is assuming that it's a bacterial pneumonia (and treating it as such), but doesn't know which bacterium, then use Pneumonia, bacterial + Infectious organism, unknown
-{{discussion}} Pneumonia, NOS is also in the "potential infection" category. I can't think of a situation in which pneumonia wouldn't be considered an actual infection. I am worried about forgetting to add the pathogen. I will often code this on my first read of the chart, before a culture has been sent.  Because there is no cross check to remind me, I am worried that I will sometimes forget to go back and add a culture result.[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]] 12:17, 2019 April 24 (CDT)
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 == Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==
 *[[Eosinophilic pulmonary disease (pulmonary eosinophilia), NOS]]
-*[[Pneumonia Etiology not clear]]
 {{ListICD10Category | categoryName = Pneumonia}}