VAP - Ventilator Associated Pneumonia: Difference between revisions

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*If the patient was admitted to VM with a community acquired pneumonia, then in ICU grows staph aureus and they now diagnose VAP and change antibiotics, the pneumonia is still active when patient discharged to medicine ward. Do I code it as VAP with staph aureus?[[User:WGobert|WGobert]] 09:04, 16 December 2008 (CST)

**Just so I am clear: the patient admitted from the community to ICU with primary DX of CAP. In ICU developed a secondary VAP. Sent down to ward with unresolved VAP which continued to be treated? believe this is what you are asking?

***If pt from ICU with DX VAP then to medicine ward with ongoing VAP requiring continued treatment then YES, must be one of the admitting DX in medicine. If it is the primary reason for ward admission from ICU, then it should be in admit DX 1.

***''If pt from ICU with DX VAP then to medicine ward with ongoing VAP requiring continued treatment then YES, must be one of the admitting DX in medicine. If it is the primary reason for ward admission from ICU, then it should be in admit DX 1. ''

**The ICU where the patient was first admitted and developed the "complication" of VAP is given the credit when Julie does stats reporting. Any patient who has VAP in their admitting DX code is not included in the reporting of unit acquired VAP's.[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 18:56, 16 December 2008 (CST)

***Thanks Trish,just wasn't sure if I could code the VAP on medicine. As you know, we are still not using ventilators on our tower units.....kidding....but i wasn't sure. Norine and I discussed this patient, and with the criteria, have coded this patient as a CAP not a VAP. Thanks Wendy

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 *If the patient was admitted to VM with a community acquired pneumonia, then in ICU grows staph aureus and they now diagnose VAP and change antibiotics, the pneumonia is still active when patient discharged to medicine ward. Do I code it as VAP with staph aureus?[[User:WGobert|WGobert]] 09:04, 16 December 2008 (CST)
 **Just so I am clear: the patient admitted from the community to ICU with primary DX of CAP.  In ICU developed a secondary VAP.  Sent down to ward with unresolved VAP which continued to be treated? believe this is what you are asking?
-***If pt from ICU with DX VAP then to medicine ward with ongoing VAP requiring continued treatment then YES, must be one of the admitting DX in medicine. If it is the primary reason for ward admission from ICU, then it should be in admit DX 1.
+***''If pt from ICU with DX VAP then to medicine ward with ongoing VAP requiring continued treatment then YES, must be one of the admitting DX in medicine. If it is the primary reason for ward admission from ICU, then it should be in admit DX 1. ''
 **The ICU where the patient was first admitted and developed the "complication" of VAP is given the credit when Julie does stats reporting.  Any patient who has VAP in their admitting DX code is not included in the reporting of unit acquired VAP's.[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 18:56, 16 December 2008 (CST)
 ***Thanks Trish,just wasn't sure if I could code the VAP on medicine. As you know, we are still not using ventilators on our tower units.....kidding....but i wasn't sure. Norine and I discussed this patient, and with the criteria, have coded this patient as a CAP not a VAP. Thanks Wendy