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The ''' | #Independent of the ABG selected, choose the '''worst''' pH from any of the blood gases. | ||
#I see I have two different guides here. The above and also another from previous guide which collectors are following. | |||
*Sending out a survey & will post clarification. [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST) | |||
{{Discussion}} | |||
*'''Guideline discrepancy APACHE PH''':[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST) | |||
*When selecting a PH for your APACHE score do you: | |||
*a. use the PH from the worst BLOOD GAS result you had selected for that patient | |||
*-or- | |||
*b. do select the worst PH which is independent of the ABG you used?[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 16:01, 12 February 2009 (CST) | |||
'''*NORINE-VIC''' | |||
*I use the worst pH of the same ABG, I do not extract another pH from another gas as that would be stacking the deck wouldn’t it? Basically I choose the gas that would score the highest for the apache as a lower/higher pH can sometimes count more than a lower p02. Feb 12.09 | |||
'''Jackie Winestock_VIC''' | |||
*Anyway, I look at the worst ph independant of the blood gas that I use. Jackie. Feb 12.09 | |||
Refer to [[General Collection Guidelines for Apache II#When to collect, which value to use]] for how and when to collect this. | Refer to [[General Collection Guidelines for Apache II#When to collect, which value to use]] for how and when to collect this. | ||
Revision as of 18:02, 12 February 2009
- Independent of the ABG selected, choose the worst pH from any of the blood gases.
- I see I have two different guides here. The above and also another from previous guide which collectors are following.
- Sending out a survey & will post clarification. TOstryzniuk 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST)
- Guideline discrepancy APACHE PH:TOstryzniuk 16:00, 12 February 2009 (CST)
- When selecting a PH for your APACHE score do you:
- a. use the PH from the worst BLOOD GAS result you had selected for that patient
- -or-
- b. do select the worst PH which is independent of the ABG you used?TOstryzniuk 16:01, 12 February 2009 (CST)
*NORINE-VIC
- I use the worst pH of the same ABG, I do not extract another pH from another gas as that would be stacking the deck wouldn’t it? Basically I choose the gas that would score the highest for the apache as a lower/higher pH can sometimes count more than a lower p02. Feb 12.09
Jackie Winestock_VIC
- Anyway, I look at the worst ph independant of the blood gas that I use. Jackie. Feb 12.09
Refer to General Collection Guidelines for Apache II#When to collect, which value to use for how and when to collect this.