| edit | "cannot open any more tables" in Access | Pagasa |
- After 24 rows, open and closed assigning Pseudo Phin an error message pop up then I cannot assign Phin anymore. I closed CFE then open then I am good to go again. The second time the error message pop up not 24 rows it less than 24 like 15 rows then it will show again the error message. PTorres 16:09, 2022 June 14 (CDT)
- Is it the "cannot open..." error or the "enter parameter..." error you get at this point? Emailed Pagasa... Ttenbergen 10:49, 2022 November 16 (CST)
- Still shows "cannot open "so I clicked ok then it says run time error 3014 cannot open any more tables. Closed the CFE then log back in.
- After I continue assigning Pseudo Phin after 25 rows "cannot open" showed up again I clicked ok then error message shows again. Closed CFE then log back in.PTorres 14:42, 2022 November 30 (CST)
- Are you following the steps in Generating PseudoPHINs when this goes wrong? Which step in those instructions are you at when it stops responding and you need to restart the program? Ttenbergen 13:48, 2022 November 29 (CST)
- Yes, I am. I am clicking and assigning the new Pseudo Phin and not moving. PTorres 14:47, 2022 November 30 (CST)
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| edit | "cannot open any more tables" in Access | Pagasa |
Assigning Pseudo Phin or working on the queries if I worked long enough opened closed it then the error message pop up "Enter Parameter Value". PTorres 17:01, 2022 April 14 (CDT)
- What is the specific action or button press after which this happens? I.e. which step in Generating PseudoPHINs? Ttenbergen 10:49, 2022 November 16 (CST)
- When I click the pseudo button to the left of the PHIN field label, nothing is moving.PTorres 15:23, 2022 November 30 (CST)
- I don't understand what you mean by that. What is the last thing you do before the "Enter Parameter Value" error happens? As in, what is the last button you click or last field you enter? Ttenbergen 12:15, 2022 December 7 (CST)
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| edit | 2025-05 Revision of concept around ICUotherService | Julie | Lose ends:
Definition of a Critical Care Program Admission uses the Service_tmp entry
STB CICU Admissions start at Arrive DtTm as linked from Service_tmp entry - can that go / become legacy?
someone will need to review the 108 links from other pages to service_tmp entry (link was breaking discuss, see below discussion) to make sure that we are not breaking anything by changing this. Ttenbergen 16:55, 27 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-27 11:12:17 PM |
| edit | 2025-05 Revision of concept around ICUotherService | Lisa |
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Lose ends:
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| edit | ABG Data | Allan |
- Identified as something we should do to streamline data collection. I have made this page to document progress toward this import. Blood gas data is in DSM listing; need to compare to see if we can use it
- Allan will revisit with Lab people whether this is obtainable now Ttenbergen 11:34, 2022 February 9 (CST)
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| edit | ACP Status Collection | all | Task
I had understood that DR wanted to know if the doctors on the current service are processing this. That might be a misunderstanding, though. DR if a patient is admitted to our service from another service or ward (icu to medicine, ER to medicine/ICU, surgical ward to ICU/medicine) and has an ACP already established by the previous service, can we use this as the first documented ACP? or do you want to know when the new service establishes an ACP status?
- Ah... I don't think I got clarification on that one. I have added it to my list for my next meeting with Dr. Roberts (Thu Jul 3). Also added to Task in case that happens sooner. Ttenbergen 22:57, 29 June 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | APACHE Acute Dxs in ICD10 codes | Allan | You asked for a spot for this info | 2025-04-09 9:50:09 PM |
| edit | Awaiting/delayed transfer to long-term care/PCH inside or outside of Winnipeg | Tina |
I just saw this line, its probably been there for a while, but just thinking that in our definition of community living with support, in Pre acute living situation, we include assisted living, supportive housing, AIA, lennox bell, and 1010 Sinclair, we currently do not use this code for these dispo locations, should we include them or we should rethink this Lisa Kaita 21:24, 10 June 2025 (CDT)
- I actually just don't understand what this means... is the full statement "This includes those living in a community facility with support and being panelled for PCH" or what? In any case, yes, judging by how often this comes up in a search, we should likely make a page for community facility with support and store the details there to be back-linkable if we mess with the concept anywhere. Possibly that should be a template:community facility with support instead or in addition, depending on the details we need. But have a look at the search link above and let's make sure we pick the right solution that can tie in to everywhere the concept is used. Ttenbergen 00:42, 11 June 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Beds occupied by transferrable patients (Critical Care) | Julie |
For the Directors Quarterly and Annual Report (Critical Care), the Dispo DtTm is used as the time of reference.
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| edit | Boarding Loc | all |
- leave what is in Cognos, the main office doesn't use this part for anything for home locations, but it can be used to crosscheck accuracy.
- what is this about? Ttenbergen 17:42, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
| 2025-11-27 4:09:31 AM |
| edit | Boarding Loc | Julie | It says:
Change one to be off by one minute, put a note in Notes field to check boarding location to confirm the correct date and time for the boarding locations of concern.
- how does that fit in with reviewing reality in the chart?
- I don't know what you mean by this? It means you double check the correct first service and first and second boarding loc dttm Lisa Kaita 21:14, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
- Well, it seems like this triggers an error check, so you pull the times a minute apart to overcome the error check and put a note to remind you to check later. So either the check should run later (on complete or send) or we shouldn't have it at all. But a check that just gets you to "tweak" the data to make it go away isn't a good idea.
sure if you can have the cross check on completion that would be better, the prior scenario is almost always for SICU admissions from ER Lisa Kaita 15:51, 26 November 2025 (CST)
- Julie, do you use Boarding Loc info on incomplete charts? Would either the current collection practice, or delaying the check, mess with measures or indicators? Ttenbergen 22:09, 26 November 2025 (CST)
| 2025-11-27 4:09:31 AM |
| edit | Boarding Loc | Julie | what is this sentence telling me, can I not use the specific medicine entry? Why/how? What would a new collector need to know?
I have no idea, I suppose this can happen although I have not ever seen this at any of the facilities, I believe you were the original author of this so feel free to do what you want with this Lisa Kaita 13:46, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
- Julie, do you know what this is about? If the same applies for Med as for ICU in this, then lets get rid of the confusing entry. Ttenbergen 17:23, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
- we have one case S4_STB_Med-2892 where first3 days at SBGH ICMS then transferred to SBGH-L2CC.--JMojica 16:42, 18 August 2025 (CDT)
- What else would they use? The entry would come from Cognos, no? It's entered by drop-down, so I don't think they could enter anything but the actual entry. Is this stated here really as a reminder for you, in case this happens again? If so, would it be better to store it in L_Problems table? If it is an instruction to collectors, would you explain further what you actually intend? Ttenbergen 17:33, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
| 2025-11-27 4:09:31 AM |
| edit | Change Explainer Pages | all |
For now that listing is quite incomplete, we have left quite a trail of these and will need to add them. | 2025-09-26 7:34:07 PM |
| edit | Change to coding locations for Decubitus Ulcers | Julie |
will there be a regular report for Andie, or is the change to ICU Acquired Ulcer Rate all that was needed? If so, here is the start, lets spin it out into its own page. If not, we can delete this discussion. Ttenbergen 23:31, 11 July 2025 (CDT)
Once complete the following section is used on any report page to provide structured data
- the following is needed for the application of the Report template
Program: Critical Care
StartDtTm: <eg 2018-01-01>
EndDtTm: <eg 2018-01-01>
Frequency: <eg monthly, quarterly, annually, as requested>
ContactPerson: <names, organization if outside of Shared Health>
Recipients: <names>
MailingList: <Outlook list if applicable>
DataDependencies: <likely list of dxs, possibly including admit or dispo dttm>
SASFiles: <path(s) for SAS files> | 2025-10-23 8:26:20 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Task |
| 2025-11-28 1:43:16 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Tina |
Discussed this at JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025#JALT 2025-03-11 but I don't remember if we came to an answer or next step. Just found a note to add that we will also need to decide if any of these are in-patient locations. This would make them collectable as Pre-admit Inpatient Institution, and is relevant as per Pre-admit Inpatient Institution field#Data Use / Purpose.
are you referring to PCH's because they are not inpt locations or are you referring to chronic health facilities? Lisa Kaita 14:52, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-28 1:43:16 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Tina |
review, that might need to be consolidated with this page as well. | 2025-11-28 1:43:16 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Tina |
These should be made consistent with [[Template:PCH Riverview Deer Lodge (DLC)]] and should probably use that template to enforce consistent use. Ttenbergen 14:23, 2024 October 16 (CDT)
- and I have lost track of the details Ttenbergen 10:45, 2024 November 1 (CDT)
- There might be an easy way out of this question. We now only have one awaiting code; if waiting for any of them qualifies for this code then we may not need to know about the level of care. But then again, some of those sites also have acute/LAU type settings so we may need to figure this out after all...Ttenbergen 20:27, 2024 December 11 (CST)
that template does not exist or I can't find it Lisa Kaita 14:56, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-28 1:43:16 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Tina |
This issue raised a problem with medicine data recently, and we will review again if this needs to be coded more granular after all,
dicussed at JALT June 25, 2025: while Bojan would like this it is not possible to keep track of unit changes and not always easy to tell which unit they arrive from so leave a Riverview and Deer Lodge (DLC), with the exception of the PCH units in each facility.Lisa Kaita 14:52, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-28 1:43:16 PM |
| edit | Chronic Health Facility | Tina | We have discussed lately that we might want to become more nuanced about some chronic care locations (Deer Lodge (DLC) and Riverview). I have removed the details from the above linked fields and consolidated here. Once this page is cleaned up this discussion entry can be removed.
Discussed at
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| edit | ClientGUID field | all |
Lisa, any idea why this might be happening from a collection perspective? Is the problem in what we receive the right info from Cognos, or is there an issue in the collection process that makes this happen? Ttenbergen 09:52, 2024 December 5 (CST)
Julie, do we need to flag anywhere further that this data is suspect? Ttenbergen 09:52, 2024 December 5 (CST) | 2025-10-31 8:55:14 PM |
| edit | Cognos downtime procedure | Julie | Are there any hard commitments? Soft commitments? | 2025-10-08 1:19:28 AM |
| edit | Collection of data on homelessness | Lisa |
Province - That definition doesn't make it clear to me whether the entry should be "NK Not Known / Not available" or "MB" - can we clarify that? Ttenbergen 00:17, 12 July 2025 (CDT)
* who should we clarify with, I would think if they have a MB PHIN or are self pay then you would choose MB, if they don't then I would choose Not known Lisa Kaita 21:25, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
- more of a "tighten definition" than "check with"; from talking with SW this population frequently doesn't have their paperwork or registrations figured out, or their MB Health status has expired even if they would theoretically be covered, etc. This all came up when Julie checked for outliers and compared the province and postal code to determine status for homelessness.
| 2025-11-28 3:56:37 AM |
| edit | Community Nursing Home Location Helper | Tina | flagging this because it's a close sibling to the idea of getting a listing of shelter PCs to cross check (or facilitate entering maybe? homeless status in Pre acute living situation field. See Community and Long Term Care Master List. | 2025-07-18 10:35:02 PM |
| edit | Created TransferReady query | Tina | Still need to import this into master CFE, the version I have right now is messed up. Here it is: | 2024-11-22 6:08:24 AM |
| edit | Data definition for factor candidates for the Overstay2 project | Tina | Integrate these better
re pre admit for outside Winnipeg facility discussion, change from getting from Previous Location only to getting it from both Previous Location and Pre-admit Inpatient Institution; this was missed before because we based the initial fields on the last overstay project, and back then these two fields were still combined
re-institute amputation; before we were only looking at the CCI code, but we should consider Past history, loss of limb(s) as well | 2025-12-05 10:27:38 PM |
| edit | Data Meaning Layer | all |
This had been percolating in my head for a while and I finally had a chance to look into it. Looking forward to thoughts. Ttenbergen 18:11, 18 July 2025 (CDT) | 2025-09-26 7:15:04 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage I (surface reddening), of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:49:29 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage I (surface reddening), of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:49:34 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage I (surface reddening), of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:48:54 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage I (surface reddening) | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-07-01 2:48:27 AM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage II (to fascia, just under skin), of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:49:47 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage II (to fascia, just under skin), of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:49:54 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage II (to fascia, just under skin), of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:49:42 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage II (to fascia, just under skin) | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-07-01 2:48:29 AM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage III (deep, to but not including muscle), of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:08 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage III (deep, to but not including muscle), of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:15 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage III (deep, to but not including muscle), of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:03 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage III (deep, to but not including muscle) | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-07-01 2:48:57 AM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage IV (involves bone), of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:29 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage IV (involves bone), of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:36 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage IV (involves bone), of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:50:21 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, Stage IV (involves muscle, tendon, or bone) | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-07-01 2:48:33 AM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated, of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated, of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:56:19 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated, of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
| 2025-10-23 7:56:12 PM |
| edit | Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Decubitus Ulcer Study | Julie |
This data is not in the tmp table (at least not under a project "Decubitus Ulcer". Where does it live? | 2025-10-23 8:21:24 PM |
| edit | Definition of a Critical Care Program Admission | all |
We need to extract a summary of the definition details from the page history.
We should set up a Data Meaning Layer to provide a clear Record definition in CFE to treat historical, pre PatientFollow Project, records in a way that is consistent with our current definition. | 2025-08-07 4:22:00 PM |
| edit | Definition of a Medicine Program Admission | all |
We need to extract a summary of the definition details from the page history.
We should set up a Record definition query in CFE to provide a clear way in CFE to treat historical, pre PatientFollow Project, records in a way that is consistent with our current definition. | 2025-07-30 9:51:38 PM |
| edit | Discharged to community | all | Just a placeholder for now because the idea of how we define dispo to community (or for that matter, re-admit Previous Location) in data came up re. things like Readmission to MedWard and others. We have the obvious "Home" but if someone is discharged to something like Dialysis, would that also count? How do we define? Ideally by a column in s_dispo table such as s_dispo.loc_type, but that one uses "non-patient" which it also uses for Deceased patients (should we just split that out?). There is probably even more to this. Likely Julie has more than one approach in reporting. This came up because we were looking to define this for LAU collection readmission data.
- This is actually just as much regarding to admitted from community, so maybe this should just be renamed to "outpatient sites in s_dispo table"?
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| edit | Dispo field | all |
does this include patients who are discharged home with private nursing service? (steph)
- With "this" do you mean "TRSF Group/Supportive housing"? I would not have thought so. If you mean "Home with Support Services", good question. How would HIS use it (aside from getting it wrong at times)? We should probably stick with their definition for consistency. Convince me otherwise. Julie also might have thoughts on how we would use this entry, will flag for her. Ttenbergen 01:02, 24 October 2025 (CDT)
I think this would be belong under home with support services, but do the virtual wards fall under transfer to Group/Supportive housing? Lisa Kaita 14:03, 14 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-14 8:03:52 PM |
| edit | Dispo field | all | If this is actually done then why don't we just make the nursing stations available? We already have s_dispo table entries for them. 35 entries since 2016, 6 in the last 12 months. Are there other things for which this entry is used? Checked for reasons for this decision but they don't appear documented Ttenbergen 19:42, 13 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-14 8:03:52 PM |
| edit | Dispo field | Lisa | That more detailed info included things like HSC Lennox Bell; we discussed whether or not we need to document the details of this. If so, the following is likely a starting point:
Home
Home with support
Institution NOS
TRSF Group/Supportive housing
TRSF to Correctional Facility
any Hospices
GH-Transitional care
HSC - Transitional care
Misericordia - Transitional care
STB - Transitional care
VIC - Transitional care
HSC Lennox Bell
Manitoba Adolescent Treatment Center - unknown/other
- what is this about again? we already collect these with the exception of the transitional care units, which don't exist, at GH, HSC, SBGH and VIC, but there is a TCU at Miseri and DLC Lisa Kaita 21:18, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
- we discussed whether we should shift to EPR's "TRSF to Residential Care" and decided not to because our data is more granular. But we should be able to compare to their TRSF, so should understand which of our data would compare to theirs, and how. I think the above is a list of what we have in dispo, so which of those correspond do what listing in EPR? Ttenbergen 10:31, 8 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Dispo field | Task | JALT
I thought we had decided at JALT to collect this as presented by EPR... do I remember this wrong? I had already added it in CCMDB.accdb Change Log 2025#2025-03-11-1. Ttenbergen 22:52, 11 March 2025 (CDT)
- Yes, I saw that, come to think of it I don't think we decided, not in my notes, but we can use it and I will change the wiki instructions Lisa Kaita 11:25, 13 March 2025 (CDT)
- If we are going to collect this detail for dispo, should we consider whether or not to also look at SH in preadmit living situation?, currently lumped with community facility with support. Lisa Kaita 14:45, 16 April 2025 (CDT)
- The entry name includes "TRSF" - is the entry for the previous location equivalent in EPR? Ttenbergen 23:30, 16 April 2025 (CDT)
- no because the previous location would usually be <site>_ER Lisa Kaita 09:53, 28 May 2025 (CDT)
- Sorry, I should have asked about "pre-hospital location in ADT". Ttenbergen 16:21, 28 May 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | DSM Lab Extract | Tina |
A possibility to change the current Chart entry to be the same with SH format (see #DSM Inclusion Criteria/ Process for reason why in details). | 2025-07-30 4:32:23 PM |
| edit | DSM Labs data.accdb | Julie | Emailed Julie:
found overlap in old file, what does it mean
proposed using labDtTm for split threshold
Ttenbergen 16:51, 2024 May 2 (CDT) | 2025-06-30 6:12:40 AM |
| edit | DtTm for First Boarding Loc and First Service | Lisa | do we need to be specific here that this should always mean setting a boarding loc to a later dttm in case a pt was there earlier? I would not want someone to omit an initial boarding loc and set the second location's time to earlier
- wouldn't our cross checks capture this? As long as collectors follow the above instruction the first boarding loc has to have the same DTTM Lisa Kaita 11:16, 7 August 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | ER Delay | all |
I have re-updated Created_Variables_Common_maker_2021 query, for some reason the change I had made was not reflected in the master version. Ready to test. Ttenbergen 13:25, 2022 June 28 (CDT)
- emailed Tina some inconsistencies found in ER Delays Aug 15,2022. --JMojica 13:21, 2022 August 29 (CDT)
- are these still an issue? Ttenbergen 11:15, 2024 May 1 (CDT)
- I will re-check again. Can't remember if have been resolved. --JMojica 14:40, 2024 October 2 (CDT)
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| edit | ER Delay | Julie |
I just had a look at that sas file (they open as text files) to see how you define transfer delay. If that file is still being used we may have a problem, it still defines tdelay different if a pt goes to a higher level of care, goes AMA or dies, and we changed that some time ago. So is this still the reference of how you calculate this? Ttenbergen 22:50, 2024 November 16 (CST) | 2025-12-07 9:14:16 PM |
| edit | ER Delay | Julie |
This data is problematic before 2011-Q2,the only reason there are any is because it derives them for EMIPs. Some data may be available in Moves for Medicine, but that would still leave a gap. Ttenbergen 23:09, 2024 November 16 (CST)
- OK, will be working on this getting data from Moves for Medicine from period Sept 2007 to June 3, 2011. will give to Pagasa for upload to Arrive DtTm field. I will update the WIKI as soon as done. Conclusion: for Medicine, prior Sept 2007, no ER delay while for Critical Care, no ER Delay prior July 1, 2016 -- these are treated as missing. --JMojica 16:35, 2024 December 11 (CST)
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| edit | ER Delay | Julie |
This measure is not referenced by any of the Reports pages. Which reports actually use this? Is it wrapped into a specifically stratified indicator like beds lost or similar? Ttenbergen 15:14, 7 December 2025 (CST) | 2025-12-07 9:14:16 PM |
| edit | Error "Invalid SQL statment..." when sending | all |
I have a hunch that this error may be related to a send failing for one collector and a second collector then also sending, leading to problems with the lock file.
So, when the error happens, please have a look at Regional Server\/output\\ad.wrha.mb.ca\WRHA\REGION\SHARED\ICU_DATA_COLLECTION\/output and see if there is a second centralized_data file there with an extension .lccdb. See Lccmdb and ldb files for details. Please log here about what you find. Ttenbergen 10:41, 2024 November 30 (CST) | 2025-11-07 3:17:49 PM |
| edit | EuroSCORE II | all |
- Do we need to add "Dr. Michael Troncone" to this? Or is it better to not maintain that list here and instead ask collectors to refer to the dropdown?
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| edit | Geri Rehab | Tina | this is one of the things we needed to discuss further, currently we capture RR5 as HSC_ward, but it is a combination of spinal cord rehab, NMSK rehab, amputation rehab, Riverview has stroke rehab, Deer Lodge (DLC) has Geri rehab, If we are capturing these rehab wards for CGH, SOGH and VGH should we not be capturing this for all dispo locations that are rehab? Lisa Kaita 13:11, 8 April 2025 (CDT) | 2025-07-30 4:33:58 PM |
| edit | GRA Medicine Collection Guide | all |
I thought that GRA was not a teaching hospital. So what does it mean for them to have a CTU? Ttenbergen 23:17, 29 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-30 5:17:39 AM |
| edit | GRA Medicine Collection Guide | Lisa | This sounds more deliberate than the usual off-servicing, so: Will they have DPST forms, and be part of the Overstay project? | 2025-11-30 5:17:39 AM |
| edit | Guideline for coding organ donation after death | all | For a patient who intend to be an organ donor and died in the unit or ward but the organ donor did not happen for some reason (e.g. family changed their mind, or some other circumstance occurred, and they did not end up going to the OR), do we still need to code Organ donor (organ/tissue donation by the donor) in admit or acquired? maybe not and the Dispo entry is just - Died to morgue ? Or if we want to keep the organ donor code, we need a code telling it did not happen, is that possible? --JMojica 16:58, 18 November 2025 (CST)
Another scenario - For a patient who has an acquired diagnosis of Organ donor (organ/tissue donation by the donor) and brain death and the harvesting done during the same ICU admission and did not go to OR, then the dispo is Died to morgue , is this correct? --JMojica 16:58, 18 November 2025 (CST)
- Question is under the MAID heading in here but does not necessarily seem to be related to MAID... or is it? Ttenbergen 23:20, 18 November 2025 (CST)
- I have a feeling this question comes with context - what were you looking for? Ttenbergen 23:20, 18 November 2025 (CST)
- the two items listed here are general questions about organ donor and how to know if the donor happened or not. i just inserted the discussions after the MAID but not meant to be related to MAID. Sorry, I notice how the two comments came out , one with a box and another under it. I tried to change but unsuccessful so I leave them as is. The main goal is to add them to the instruction if making sense. --JMojica 09:05, 19 November 2025 (CST)
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| edit | High-Obs Wards | Tina | Tina to add. | 2025-03-20 5:17:20 PM |
| edit | ICD10 Guideline for drugs and substances | all | Task
just realized that Illicit drug use wasn't mentioned here; we might want better info how it fits into the remaining instructions on this page. | 2025-09-08 10:47:18 PM |
| edit | ICUotherService | Julie |
what does this mean split HSC CC records by service rather than by program only? no more documentation of borrowed bed and service say, SICU overflow in MICU or MICU overflow in SICU? --JMojica 11:20, 15 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Intended1stSrvc | all | This project is not live yet, do not follow the instructions to stop the old collection yet. I hope to have this set up to start collecting with the new instructions Dec1. For now, continue to use the instructions in ICUotherService. Ttenbergen 14:27, 26 September 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-27 9:55:36 PM |
| edit | Intended1stSrvc | all |
I don't think any checks are possible for this, or can someone think of one? | 2025-11-27 9:55:36 PM |
| edit | Intended1stSrvc | all | JALT
How do we want to do this, we could use the currently active entries for CC in s_dispo table:
HSC_IICU
HSC_MICU
HSC_SICU
STB_ACCU
STB_CICU
STB_MICU
or the full possible names under the CC services in S Cognos Services table that we actually use (in the last 2 months we had):
Item
- GH Critical Care / ACSS
- GH Critical Care / General
- GH Critical Care / General ICU
- HSC Critical Care - MICU
- HSC Critical Care / A Medicine
- HSC Critical Care / A Non Teaching Med
- HSC Critical Care / D Medicine
- HSC Critical Care / D Non Teaching Med
- HSC Critical Care / General
- HSC Critical Care / H Medicine
- HSC Critical Care / H Non Teaching Med
- HSC Critical Care / Intermediate
- HSC Critical Care / Medicine
- HSC Critical Care / Neurosurgery
- HSC Critical Care / Obstetrics
- HSC Critical Care / Orthopedics
- HSC Critical Care / Otolaryngology
- HSC Critical Care / Plastics
- HSC Critical Care / Respiratory
- HSC Critical Care / Trauma
- HSC Critical Care / Vascular
- HSC Surgery / Neurosurgery
- SBGH Cardiac / Cardiac Surgery
- SBGH Cardiac / Crit Care Cardiology
- SBGH Critical Care / Acute Care Surgery
- SBGH Critical Care / B Service
- SBGH Critical Care / C Service
- SBGH Critical Care / Cardiac Surgery
- SBGH Critical Care / Crit Care Cardiology
- SBGH Critical Care / General
- SBGH Critical Care / Medicine
or we could use only the part before the "/" for the CC services in S Cognos Services table:
- GH Critical Care
- HSC Critical Care / Intermediate (this wouldn't be captured without the post-/ part)
- HSC Critical Care
- (but what would actually signify SICU, or would we again still need Service/Location for that?
- SBGH Cardiac
- SBGH Critical Care
- SBGH Cardiac / Cardiac Surgery (this wouldn't be captured without the post-/ part)
- SBGH Cardiac / Crit Care Cardiology (this wouldn't be captured without the post-/ part)
| 2025-11-27 9:55:36 PM |
| edit | Intended1stSrvc | all | Things we need to resolve:
We need to review anything that links to ICUotherService, and anything that page lists to. The "anything that links there" can be accessed by expanding the "related articles (expand)" at the bottom of ICUotherService. Ttenbergen 10:59, 25 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Intended1stSrvc | Julie | is that the right report? I have added this new data to that report's dependencies. If it's the wrong one it will need to be taken out of there. If other reports also use this, it will need to be added to them. If only that report you can remove this comment. Ttenbergen 15:20, 26 September 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-27 9:55:36 PM |
| edit | JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025 | all | just came across Proposed future changes to Location and Transfer Ready and related fields about a previous consideration to changing related fields. Ttenbergen 13:28, 27 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-27 11:32:29 PM |
| edit | JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025 | Allan |
Could you summarize what we would need to change from ICUotherService to get to this? It sounds similar. Ttenbergen 13:25, 17 March 2025 (CDT)
- in the example mentioned, the service is STB ICMS and flag in the tmp ICUotherService with item entry CICU under MICU service which is ICCS under ICMS service. the current list we have is clearer and less confusing than ICU other service- MICU. And when this patient is accepted to the STB ICMS as an ICMS patient, we continue the profile and the tmp ICUotherService will have a new line with entry MICU under MICU service. Such profile then will have part of ICMS service as an ICCS patient and as an ICMS patient. In the qtr report, this profile is included in the ICMS unit. However, a separate report if requested can be done if wanted to know the LOS of overflowed patients on borrowed service. --JMojica 17:30, 7 April 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025 | Allan | Group E should be different - mine - my ICU. Example - SICU patient taken care by MICU service at MICU bed. in contrast with Group C: SICU patient taken care by SICU service at MICU bed. - --JMojica 15:09, 14 August 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-27 11:32:29 PM |
| edit | John or Jane Doe patient | Julie |
Entries for these would affect Overstay2 Overview and initial entry practice isn't currently clear in Minimal Data Set; is there anything we need to review with that in mind? Ttenbergen 13:47, 20 June 2025 (CDT)
- Most of our JD patients are identified at some point during their admission, I can't think of any that haven't been, are there many in the database? Lisa Kaita 21:29, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
- We use some of this data while incomplete, and it also has been a candidate for overstay parameters. Think of it coming from the "is this patient from Manitoba" vs "is this patient a JD". Even if they eventually become identified, that doesn't help with initial data. We are trying to define how this data should be handled in that scenario as well. Ttenbergen 10:13, 8 September 2025 (CDT)
Julie had added some chart info for JD patients to the Postal code page, but its about chart so belongs here or in the chart page. So: do we want to consolidate the JD info here and link to field pages, or in field pages and link to this and use this just as an index? Or do we want templates for each so we can list the whole bit consistently on both? Ttenbergen 09:47, 11 August 2025 (CDT) | 2025-09-08 3:13:24 PM |
| edit | John or Jane Doe patient | Lisa |
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- Entries for these would affect Overstay2 Overview and initial entry practice isn't currently clear in Minimal Data Set; is there anything we need to review with that in mind? Ttenbergen 13:47, 20 June 2025 (CDT)
- Most of our JD patients are identified at some point during their admission, I can't think of any that haven't been, are there many in the database? Lisa Kaita 21:29, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
- We use some of this data while incomplete, and it also has been a candidate for overstay parameters. Think of it coming from the "is this patient from Manitoba" vs "is this patient a JD". Even if they eventually become identified, that doesn't help with initial data. We are trying to define how this data should be handled in that scenario as well. Ttenbergen 10:13, 8 September 2025 (CDT)
- Julie had added some chart info for JD patients to the Postal code page, but its about chart so belongs here or in the chart page. So: do we want to consolidate the JD info here and link to field pages, or in field pages and link to this and use this just as an index? Or do we want templates for each so we can list the whole bit consistently on both? Ttenbergen 09:47, 11 August 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | L TmpV2 multi-entry clean-up | Julie | Did we ever resolve this? What was the outcome? If we didn't resolve it, do we still need to? If not, can we delete this page? | 2025-03-15 3:15:57 AM |
| edit | LAU collection readmission data | Lisa |
- what if they spend time in an ED in between as part of re-admission, possibly pushing past the 7 day range? Due to the very long ER delays for LAU I think we would want to include those. Ttenbergen 00:06, 12 March 2025 (CDT
- These would be included because I am using the ADT/EPR readmits and the admit time reflects first time of presentation and an ensuing admission Lisa Kaita 12:13, 10 April 2025 (CDT))
- to be perfectly clear: if someone is discharged from LAU on Jan 1, and then presents to an ED at GRA, where they decide the person should go to LAU, but the patient is not transferred and made an inpatient again at an LAU for another 3 days (pushing their new admission past the 10 day window), would you tag them as a re-admission? Ttenbergen 12:42, 10 April 2025 (CDT)
- Yes, I believe it would because in EPR for patient visits, the patient you describe would show them as an inpatient, beginning Jan 7, even though by our definition they are not an inpt til the LAU folks accept them. I would not be able to decipher the actual first service time without having the chart or running an EPR report. Lisa Kaita 12:49, 10 April 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | LAU Public Trustee | Tina | I also used this field for FORM 21 but documented it in the Q column, should we take this out? I think there were a handful of these Lisa Kaita 07:27, 11 April 2025 (CDT) | 2025-05-03 5:39:57 AM |
| edit | Link suspect not same visitAdmitDtTm query | all |
Found a record from last Oct in this query so emailed Julie and Pagasa to see if we are still running this. Guess that raises the question if Correcting suspect links is still being followed, and Centralized data Vetting Process in general. Ttenbergen 22:49, 11 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-07-23 4:13:26 AM |
| edit | Link suspect visitAdmitDtTm mult to-from-home query | Tina |
implement this
with L_Problems tie in
tell Pagasa it exists | 2025-07-23 4:15:01 AM |
| edit | Manitoba RHAs | Julie |
Manitoba RHAs is not currently considered under Data Dependencies, a blind spot we should probably fix if we do, we should probably do it by making separate pages for Postal_Code_Master.rhaname and s_dispo.MB_RHA with proper use of Template:Data element, and up date the Data Dependencies in Reports and Indicators accordingly. Ttenbergen 14:53, 20 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-06-20 7:53:36 PM |
| edit | O365 Testing | Julie |
The laptop doesn't have SAS so we need to plan separately for testing this. Julie, what are your thoughts? | 2025-10-18 2:47:30 AM |
| edit | Overstay2 data processing and reporting in CFE | all |
Nothing yet, fill in as it becomes available. | 2025-02-23 10:13:18 PM |
| edit | Overstay2 data processing and reporting in CFE | Tina |
add functions/subs when I finalize this | 2025-02-23 10:13:18 PM |
| edit | Overstay2 Overview | all |
When I talked with Andrea Thiessen she said there was no SOP for the clerk yet, and that the form is not yet part of the admission package because they are finalizing some forms approval for it. Until we hear it's set up it might be good to flag when you run low on forms or forms are not in the admission package. | 2025-07-24 9:18:10 PM |
| edit | Overstay2 Screening Reports | Tina |
According to the draft SOPs we are to provide communication of the results as below. Andrea Thiessen explained that they would want something like a list split by colour. Then people would start manually populating other documents with this. I should follow up to determine the details and possibly set up a better way.
2025-07-03 TT emailed to Katherine Graham and Kathy Kwiatkowski how they will use it (include Andrea Thiessen) | 2025-09-06 12:28:06 PM |
| edit | Overstay2 Screening Reports | Tina |
The 110.500.411, Discharge Planning Screening Tool (DPST) says that we will provide a report or patient colours. The details need to still be worked out.
- I need to work with Andrea and Katherine Graham on overall reporting, so please don't do a separate approach on this. Separate emails are awkward for them, I asked to do it like that for now because it's low effort on collector part and you said you are already overwhelmed by all the changes. Ttenbergen 12:12, 3 July 2025 (CDT)
If this remains in email form there may end up being a mailing list for this.
Once the final reports are figured out collectors may or may not be involved in providing these. Ttenbergen 00:11, 2 July 2025 (CDT)
- As of July25,2025 collectors were advised they can stop sending the automatically generated emails to Andrea, so we have, TT removed this function Sept 5, 2025 Lisa Kaita 07:28, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Parked in ER | Julie |
Does that make this one of the Indicators? If so we should apply Template:Reporting Indicators so this is linked and tracked appropriately. If it isn't a separate indicator and only a component of ICU Interfacility Transfer then it should be added to the template there. | 2025-07-31 3:06:45 AM |
| edit | Patients residing in Manitoba with ambiguous MH Health coverage | all | JALT
The page name isn't quite right, this concept is still evolving in documentation.
Some of these may be better off broken out as their own pages or templates and only indexed from here. | 2025-08-14 5:06:29 PM |
| edit | PHI copy automation | Tina | there is a data processing instruction for this on the wiki, no time to find it right now. | 2025-11-10 4:37:18 PM |
| edit | Postal Code field | all |
CCMDB have pre_acute_living_situation field homeless with Postal Code, should the Postal code be ignored and replaced by N/A. Should the R_Province entry be affected by Postal Code N/A? --JMojica 10:54, 24 June 2025 (CDT)
- We are currently reviewing some of the definitions of homelessness. It is possible that details will change as outcome from that. The concept has been broadened to include some ambiguous states and terminology changed to houselessness. Next meeting later this week about that.
- I don't expect that it would change instructions of how to code Postal Code; so, it makes sense to me to update vetted data for postal code to "N/A" if the Pre acute living situation is "homeless".
- Also, we have discussed whether it would be better to do this as an actual change in data, or as an logical change by function or encoded data in the Data Meaning Layer. Julie, you already do some other things in that layer to re-write data, if I interpret your SAS code correctly. Ttenbergen 17:11, 18 July 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Postal Code field | all |
once this settles we should
| 2025-08-11 2:48:50 PM |
| edit | Postal Code field | all | I understand the sentiment in the following, but this should either be rules or not mentioned at all, or it will cause confusion, since it would be relevant specifically in the edge cases when it would fall apart. So it might be better to address the specific edge cases and make a rule and cross check where relevant.
Where this bears on data use, we should make sure we define once what we will check for and how we adjudicate or interpret inconsistencies, like we did for homeless patients. Ttenbergen 16:10, 11 July 2025 (CDT)
Relationship between Province, PHIN and Postal code
When collecting Postal Code, PHIN number and Province, think about the relationship of this information when you are collecting it.
- if patient has a MB PHIN number, then Province code should be MB and the postal code should be for MB (MB postal codes start with an "R").
- if Province code is not MB then the postal code should not be a MB postal code. Enter "not applicable" or the out of province postal code if available, and also, there should not be a PHIN number.
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| edit | Postal Code field | Tina |
this is related to Minimal Data Set and when it's used... do we document this as a concept? | 2025-08-11 2:48:50 PM |
| edit | Postal Code field | Tina | do we have a page for that to also include instructions about province etc. like we have for homeless... | 2025-08-11 2:48:50 PM |
| edit | Postal Code Master table | Julie |
Do we want a regular update process? See comments in that file. Ttenbergen 12:15, 4 August 2025 (CDT) | 2025-08-04 5:33:09 PM |
| edit | PowerBI Data Model for CCMDB | Tina | ER Delay and Overstay
Need to make sure I do things this way and include this in the right pages, possibly Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry but a lot of other pages touch on this, so maybe it needs to be a template? It may not be consistent everywhere:
Note from email from Julie 2024-20-24:
I do not use any cut-off e.g. 2020-10-15 because the tmp has been populated by boarding data since July 2018 for ICU and Sept 2019 for Med. The cut-off Oct 2020 Patient Follow only applies for tmp Service but not for tmp Boarding loc. By the way. the patient follow started early at Grace Oct 1, 2020 (they piloted it), while HSC and STB started Oct15, 2020. Similar with EMIPs, I have two sources of ER-delay namely 1. from Accept and Arrive 2. from Tmp : first boarding dttm and second boarding dttm. If both have values, I use the one from the tmp source. | 2024-12-12 12:11:55 AM |
| edit | Pre acute living situation field | Task |
- We found some cases where, during the same hospitalization, there are different values for this. For example, the first ward admission may have "house" and the immediate next ICU admission may have "PCH". I think there is no scenario where that makes sense. If you can think of one, tell me.
- For existing data like this, how would we best treat it heuristically. Would the first record be more likely to be right because the chart is still cleaner and easier to follow? Or would a later record be more likely to be correct since more of the patient's story would have emerged? Thoughts?
- This may arise when we complete the profiles separately ie. medicine done before ICU or vice versa, and more information may be more available in the chart, or it may have been an error where one was updated the other was not Lisa Kaita 15:32, 26 November 2025 (CST)
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| edit | Pre acute living situation field | Task | JALT should we be including Misericordia TCU here? Lisa Kaita 11:57, 5 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-26 9:32:33 PM |
| edit | Pressure-induced deep tissue damage, of heel | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Pressure-induced deep tissue damage, of other area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Pressure-induced deep tissue damage, of sacral area | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Previous Location field | all |
for consistency, should this also use the Template:PrePrevDispo listing? Actually, what does this even mean for previous location? And what do you do if the patient comes from med? | 2025-07-31 3:56:57 AM |
| edit | Previous Location field | Lisa | what is the Pre-admit Inpatient Institution entry for this case? --JMojica 13:37, 29 July 2025 (CDT)
That is what we need to decide we should probably keep it consistent with EMIP concept, however, for SICU we generally disregard the surgical service (when in ER) unless they were truly an inpt on a ward Lisa Kaita 13:59, 30 July 2025 (CDT) | 2025-07-31 3:56:57 AM |
| edit | Project AHC | Lisa |
is this really a "don't enter that"? If so it should go under #Exclusion. Ttenbergen 16:46, 21 November 2025 (CST)
or is it an "aware of patient transfer from other source" for "consult received" - in which case it should be a sub-bullet under that entry | 2025-11-22 5:33:52 AM |
| edit | Project AHC | Lisa | The following was written within the data entry instructions: "** for consults that are initiated prior to the first Service tmp entry use the dttm of the first Service tmp entry". But down here it seems to say to only enter that there was a consult if the the med team writes a new order, in which case there would be a new dttm that is within range. So these seem contradictory to me. Am I missing something? Ttenbergen 16:46, 21 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-22 5:33:52 AM |
| edit | Project AHC | Tina | can you please activate this cross check? thank you 14:13, 21 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-22 5:33:52 AM |
| edit | Project MR | all | DRQ
Do we want that to be the first time during a medicine program admission, or only the first time during a hospitalization? Ttenbergen 08:45, 26 February 2025 (CST)
Also, we define Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry to be able to do this per level of care to enable reporting separately for HOBS. I think there are problems with that concept since I doubt users of the data keep the detailed definition in mind, but we still need to decide if we want to be able to report this the same way. If so, we need the the same connector integer in the instructions. Ttenbergen 08:51, 26 February 2025 (CST)
- added to agenda to discuss with DR 2025-08-28 Ttenbergen 17:04, 21 August 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Project MR | all | DRQ
How do we want to define where to get this? Unless we get physicians to put this information into a specific spot we are right back to all the definition difficulties in Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry, only it will be worse because collectors will need to keep conflicting but similar instructions in mind. Ttenbergen 08:49, 26 February 2025 (CST)
- emailed DR about this Ttenbergen 11:36, 28 February 2025 (CST)
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| edit | Project Overstay2 | Julie | JALT
We have had patients admitted from the chronic care unit at DLC (they live there) the nurses check off PCH for where they reside (on DPST), for Pre acute living situation field we enter Chronic Health Facility and for dispo we enter Deer Lodge, should we be considering this a PCH? as per instructions on DPST they do not continue the DPST form Lisa Kaita 12:35, 24 November 2025 (CST)
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| edit | Query check has transfer ready date or checkbox | Tina |
This check doesn't seem to catch when a time is entered without a date. It would be good to update that. Don't have time right now, so leaving a note. Email exchange 2024-11-14. Ttenbergen 12:12, 2024 November 15 (CST) | 2024-11-15 6:12:47 PM |
| edit | Query check tmp AHC | Lisa |
if there is referral sent there must be a referral received entry and a consult dealt with entryLisa Kaita 11:31, 7 August 2025 (CDT)
- pt could die in between? consult could go missing? In a way those would be really the ones we would want to know about, no? I suppose we could make it a soft check... Ttenbergen 16:26, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
- this almost sounds like the opposite of how I would have understood the current instructions. I would have thought those to mean to only enter "consult received" if there was no good data for consult sent. How do we actually want to use this?
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| edit | Query check tmp AHC | Lisa |
item must not be "not entered"
I implemented this one and 40 records in my test data have a "not entered" in complete data. Did I misunderstand the instructions? | 2025-11-22 7:08:26 AM |
| edit | Query check tmp Overstay2 | Julie | others? | 2025-08-07 4:32:42 PM |
| edit | Query Check VADT too close to first boarding loc | Julie | We discussed this in our after-Task meeting 2023-07-23 and I just stumbled across it. I do not remember what this was about, nor what a reasonable delay would be. Could one of you fill in the details for the query if we still want it? No hurry. In fact I'd prefer if you not hurried ;-). Ttenbergen 21:38, 13 August 2025 (CDT)
this came about when the Pre-admit Inpatient Institution location is own site and previous location is own ER and the VADT is too close to first boarding loc dttm. If I remember correctly you mentioned 6 hours (0.25d) gap as maybe entry error on the preadmit inpt. Is 12 hours (0.50d) reasonable? --JMojica 09:23, 14 August 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Query Check VADT too close to first boarding loc | Lisa |
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We discussed this in our after-Task meeting 2023-07-23 and I just stumbled across it. I do not remember what this was about, nor what a reasonable delay would be. Could one of you fill in the details for the query if we still want it? No hurry. In fact I'd prefer if you not hurried ;-). Ttenbergen 21:38, 13 August 2025 (CDT)
- this came about when the Pre-admit Inpatient Institution location is own site and previous location is own ER and the VADT is too close to first boarding loc dttm. If I remember correctly you mentioned 6 hours (0.25d) gap as maybe entry error on the preadmit inpt. Is 12 hours (0.50d) reasonable? --JMojica 09:23, 14 August 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Query s tmp check combined Boarding Loc and TransferReadyDtTm | Tina |
- This doesn't catch duplicate Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry for Boarding Loc on incompletes. That is probably fine since we don't use the incompletes, but it could be added the next time the check is worked on anyway.
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| edit | Re-analysis and generation of Overstay2 model | all | Still needs:
considerations
values we considered and rejected
minimize duplication of Data definition for factor candidates for the Overstay2 project, things that users of the data need to know going forward need to live there, decisions taken that don't affect ongoing process should be documented here. | 2025-08-12 8:43:59 PM |
| edit | Re-analysis and generation of Overstay2 model | Julie |
leaving these here as examples how to link to the definitions on Data definition for factor candidates for the Overstay2 project. The currently used definition should live there, but changes and reasons should probably live here. We can change that format, talk to me if needed. Ttenbergen 11:35, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-08-12 8:43:59 PM |
| edit | Re-analysis and generation of Overstay2 model | Julie |
When I looked at your code that breaks out Location / living arrangement into groupings and measures it seemed to me that it was mixing up data cleaning and validation with measure definition and it might be good to keep those separate. Cleaning and validation should apply to the data in general, not just this model, no? It would make sense to document the steps taken and things found and remedies implemented on this page, but having them part of the definition seems problematic. I think I sent that as an email, but I think it would be better to track this on the wiki to have a trail for the decisions. Ttenbergen 12:03, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-08-12 8:43:59 PM |
| edit | Re-analysis and generation of Overstay2 model | Tina | still needs to be set up by Tina... | 2025-08-12 8:43:59 PM |
| edit | Readmission to MedWard | Julie |
when we were setting up LAU collection readmission data we realized that we are not clear on what exactly is included in a Discharged to community. We should decide how to define that and whether it should apply here and/or for other reports.
In a meeting with Dan, Julie and Tina we also realized we need to include the newer home with supports etc in the definition of where someone was discharged to, and we may want to base this on Visit_Admit_dttm instead and so consider re-admission to either CC or med. If I understand right, the current definition considers someone who is re-admitted to ED the next day but then spends a week in CC before coming to a medicine bed is not considered a re-admission to medicine. I think EMIPs are excluded in the same way. | 2025-11-24 9:36:16 PM |
| edit | Record definition query in CFE | all |
We should set up a Record definition query in CFE to provide a clear way in CFE to treat historical, pre PatientFollow Project, records in a way that is consistent with our current definition. This is a good idea but not trivial, so we should decide how badly we need this, but definitely document the concept.
- JM email from 2025-03-18: "Perhaps, creating a query to link those records from old definition to become similar to patient follow is needed in ACCESS to generate at least the LOS, first admit date and last discharge date, first previous location and last dispo location. In this way, SAS will not generate it and I just get it from ACCESS query. Is this hard to do? "
- The query is probably the easiest part, but this would take some analysis to figure out what all is actually affected by this, ie which other queries would need to be updated. Having said that, we should still probably do it. I don't know who would be in a position to prioritize this, I don't have bandwidth for this as a side project right now. Don't think it's a task question because I don't know if anyone there would have anything to add to this. Ttenbergen 14:17, 18 March 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Respite care | Julie | There have only been 17 of these ever, last in 2022. Do we treat these different / exclude them from any indicators like we do with palliative etc pts? Ttenbergen 14:52, 16 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-06-16 7:52:46 PM |
| edit | S dispo table | Julie |
"Hospice - other, WPG" is currently not grouped as Hospital = "Other Institution in WPG" as the other hospices - should it be? Ttenbergen 17:03, 11 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-09-27 2:12:27 AM |
| edit | S dispo.center | Julie | Is this just an arbitrary sorting of units or is there a plan to it? Ttenbergen 16:02, 11 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-03-11 10:09:28 PM |
| edit | S dispo.geog | Julie | Use
??? | 2025-03-12 4:47:50 AM |
| edit | S dispo.geog | Julie | Should these be geog = winnipeg
- Interventional Radiology
- Other Procedure Location
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| edit | S dispo.loc type | Julie |
in s_dispo table HSC Lennox Bell is listed as loc_type=unknown/other ; many in that location would be most similar to "home", so should these be grouped as "non-patient" instead? Wherever we deal with "home", are we already including these? For example, for Readmission to MedWard, would we include anyone who has been discharged to a "non-patient" location, or do we use more explicit groupings? Ttenbergen 15:24, 11 March 2025 (CDT)
also in s_dispo table HSC Lennox Bell is listed as site=HSC; it kind of is, but wherever that column is used to group, would this be a location we would expect in that group? Or should it be blank? Ttenbergen 15:24, 11 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-03-11 10:13:35 PM |
| edit | SAS | Julie |
What is the correspondence of generating SAS files to those programs? Are there naming or folder structure conventions? Ttenbergen 17:58, 25 June 2025 (CDT) | 2025-06-30 6:12:36 AM |
| edit | SBGH L2 | Julie |
I have linked this in from several reports based on those having "L2" in them. There might be others where I just don't know that they also use this building location because they word it through stb icu or cardiac unit or something. It would be worth updating and linking those reports so that, when a location related to them changes, we will be easily able to find it on the wiki and know the underlying SAS might need updating. Ttenbergen 12:35, 20 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-03-21 3:27:04 AM |
| edit | SBGH L2 | Lisa |
We need to clean up this page and likely some linking to it. I don't know the truth on the ground so can't just do it. Something do do in one of the wiki wrangling efforts LK and TT may want to schedule one of these days. Ttenbergen 12:35, 20 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-03-21 3:27:04 AM |
| edit | Scanning to network | Julie | That scanner is gone, right? | 2025-03-18 11:06:02 PM |
| edit | Selkirk Mental Health Centre | Task | JALT
currently aggregated as "PCH" because S dispo.loc type is PCH. That seems wrong. Should it be changed to “unknown/other” or to a new category “Mental Health”? And should we add Eden Mental Health Centre as well? Ttenbergen 16:21, 29 October 2025 (CDT) | 2025-11-26 9:29:21 PM |
| edit | Selkirk Mental Health Centre | Tina |
I am unclear with these instructions, if indirect code as applicable? if we are using chronic care facility, like we do for Riverview and Deer Lodge (DLC), we have Riverview as an option for if they arrive as a direct or indirect, but now Deer Lodge (DLC) and Selkirk mental health are not an option, shouldn't we be treating these all the same? There is a question on the Chronic Health Facility Lisa Kaita 17:50, 16 June 2025 (CDT)
- I agree we should treat them the same. Also, there is now Eden Mental Health Centre in Winkler, which is listed together with Selkirk on the File:GRA ALC Form.pdf. Selkirk groups together with PCHs when reported, so to treat Eden similar to Selkirk in the absence of separate record, the most consistent coding would be "Manitoba PCH outside of Winnipeg". That is probably not where a user of our data would expect to find this. Should we consider any of the residential addiction treatment centres the same way (Bruce Oake Recovery Centre, Native Addictions Council of Manitoba, ...)?
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| edit | Sending Patients | all | Task
Can we again revisit the pros and cons of sending only when working on site against sending from home? There is always a need of updated data and I do not want to be emailing everyone to send when data are needed. This can be solved by sending in all days the collector works regardless onsite or from home during the assigned time slots. In addition, I think this practice of submitting data frequently will also mean lesser new data on the laptop if unfortunate incident happens on the laptop and there is a need to re-enter data again. Do we still experience problem in sending when we set up the sending time schedule by site? --JMojica 16:37, 2 December 2025 (CST)
- There might be ways to make sending faster or more reliable. This would take a fair bit of analysis and testing.
- One reason I have not pursued this is the prospect of re-platforming. A cloud based system would eliminate sending; it might cause new process tangles but that's a different topic. So it would be good to have an idea of the time horizon for this to decide if the work to mitigate the errors and reduce sending restrictions is worth it.
- It might be possible to find a compromise that re-balances risk and benefit. Ttenbergen 01:19, 3 December 2025 (CST)
- I heard nothing from the collectors about errors in sending since we started this new schedule. If they work from home, can we allow them to send? They can send early or after 04:30 PM. PTorres 14:27, 3 December 2025 (CST)
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| edit | Service tmp post-send consistency checks | Julie |
As discussed at JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025#JALT 2025-11-27: Do we need any post-send, cross-record checks relating to Service tmp entry? Ttenbergen 16:44, 27 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-27 10:44:27 PM |
| edit | Service/Location field | Julie |
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- is this section still current? Ttenbergen 11:13, 6 March 2025 (CST)
- It up for discussion tomorrow at JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025 Lisa Kaita 21:04, 10 March 2025 (CDT)
- Allan spoke with Bojan, to be discussed at next JALT Lisa Kaita 14:48, 16 April 2025 (CDT)
- still being discussed at JALT Lisa Kaita 21:45, 9 September 2025 (CDT)
- OK, discussion seems to be complete, we will change ICUotherService to Intended1stSrvc. I have cleaned up most peripheral links, but Lisa, could you make sure that this page reflects post-ICUotherService collection instructions? Any info about the change should really only be in 2025-05 Revision of concept around ICUotherService, which I have already linked from the legacy section of this page. We need to make sure that the info to make sense of the continuity of the data lives in that page. Ttenbergen
- What will be the turn-over for this? New admissions starting Oct 1? Ttenbergen 14:54, 26 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Service/Location field | Lisa |
- is this section still current? Ttenbergen 11:13, 6 March 2025 (CST)
- It up for discussion tomorrow at JALT Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2025 Lisa Kaita 21:04, 10 March 2025 (CDT)
- Allan spoke with Bojan, to be discussed at next JALT Lisa Kaita 14:48, 16 April 2025 (CDT)
- still being discussed at JALT Lisa Kaita 21:45, 9 September 2025 (CDT)
- OK, discussion seems to be complete, we will change ICUotherService to Intended1stSrvc. I have cleaned up most peripheral links, but Lisa, could you make sure that this page reflects post-ICUotherService collection instructions? Any info about the change should really only be in 2025-05 Revision of concept around ICUotherService, which I have already linked from the legacy section of this page. We need to make sure that the info to make sense of the continuity of the data lives in that page. Ttenbergen
- What will be the turn-over for this? New admissions starting Oct 1? Ttenbergen 14:54, 26 September 2025 (CDT)
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| edit | Sex field | Task |
I just came across an incomplete record (from S9 laptop) that has a sex entry "Undiff". Our dropdown doesn't contain this so this likely came from Cognos. If this is now being coded in EPR, and considering that this would affect the "biological sex" we use in defining this, should we introduce this as an option? If we do not want to introduce this as an option, do our cross checks catch this? They might not, since this could not have been entered manually. Ttenbergen 00:16, 12 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-12 6:16:35 AM |
| edit | St.Amant | all |
Is that actually true, that we use the code for patients in one of their residential programs? Would we even know the patient is, considering many are now set up as home-stays or group homes? Or do we only collect this for people who actually live there, if there is still such a thing? Ttenbergen 15:40, 29 October 2025 (CDT)
I ran a query to check and | 2025-11-26 9:46:22 PM |
| edit | St.Amant | Task | Since 2022:
Pre acute living situation for patients where Dispo is St Amant has been recorded as:
- 23 Chronic Health Facility
- 14 Community Facility with support
- 5 Personal Care Home
- 2 House
- 1 other - known but not listed
- 1 Apartment
Pre acute living situation for patients where Previous Location is St Amant has been recorded as:
- 1 Apartment
- 1 Personal Care Home
How are we using this code, and how should we use it? Ttenbergen 16:07, 29 October 2025 (CDT)
* When I have seen this in a chart the address is usually 440 River Road, which is the St Amant facility, I code it as per the wiki instructions, as a chronic care facility. I know that St Amant has several group homes as well, but I wouldn't know their addresses and the documentation is usually not that specific to include who manages the group home. With the new dispo options, group homes would be transfer to group/supportive housing Lisa Kaita 15:46, 26 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-26 9:46:22 PM |
| edit | Standard data cleaning process | Julie |
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| edit | Template:Decubitus Stage not indicated Details | Task |
This instruction is taken from old dx Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated; since we will now have a series of codes for suspected deep tissue injury, we need to change this, but what should be here, and what should move into Template:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage Details? Ttenbergen 15:29, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
This page should remain the same, deep tissue injury is really considered to be a different way to stage/document decubitus ulcers An unstageable ulcer is still used in documentation and grading of decubitus ulcers Lisa Kaita 20:23, 7 October 2025 (CDT) | 2025-10-08 1:25:23 AM |
| edit | Template:Decubitus Stage not indicated Details | Task |
This instruction is taken from old dx Decubitus (pressure) ulcer, stage not indicated; since we will now have a series of codes for suspected deep tissue injury, we need to change this, but what should be here, and what should move into Template:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage Details? Ttenbergen 15:29, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
This page should remain the same, deep tissue injury is really considered to be a different way to stage/document decubitus ulcers An unstageable ulcer is still used in documentation and grading of decubitus ulcers Lisa Kaita 20:23, 7 October 2025 (CDT) | 2025-10-24 2:28:08 PM |
| edit | Template:ICD10 Guideline Decubitus Ulcer | Julie |
Julie will report on the worst stage from Acquired Diagnosis
- How will that work now with the locations included? How will the report aggregate? And: which report? It should link to the diagnoses using the wiki infrastructure. If you tell me which report(s) I can set that up. Ttenbergen 15:35, 30 June 2025 (CDT)
- what is the rank of this in relation to decubitus stages? is this before stage 1 or what? - Julie
- By "this" do you mean the Category:Decubitus Deep Tissue Damage? It's not before 1, it's a different thing and can apparently be serious, and likely to progress to a higher stage pressure ulcer. Might be best to report it as its own thing. Ttenbergen 01:25, 31 July 2025 (CDT)
- Julie emailed Carmen Hrymak 7/13/2025 to inquire about the reporting of ulcer rate now that the locations of ulcer were added. Waiting for response.
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| edit | Template:ICD10 Guideline MRSA | Allan | z "It was decided that Allan with contact Dr. Embil after COVID is over and see if we can obtain this data from Infection Control. If so, we could import it into the database, and have our data collectors cease obtaining it." - did anything come of that?
I have sent an email to John Lisa Kaita 20:49, 10 March 2025 (CDT) | 2025-07-30 7:25:43 PM |
| edit | Transfer Delay (Critical Care) | Julie |
The Dispo location will be used to define the destination. As per Dr. Garland & Dr. Paunovic.
- I think we discussed at Task that we will do this differently now... right?
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| edit | Transfer Delay (Critical Care) | Julie |
The above is really about stratification, and not the indicator itself. Do you really only use it to stratify delays, or do you also report other indicators such as Length of Stay with it. Even if it is single-use, I think we should probably treat any generated value we use to stratify pretty much as we do Indicators, possibly using the same templates on the wiki. The stratification affects averages and totals, so it needs to be transparent. This is likely a can of worms because there must be much stratification in the reports. Ttenbergen 14:50, 7 December 2025 (CST) | 2025-12-07 8:50:58 PM |
| edit | Transfer for bed management | all |
In Medicine records this will sometimes be related to Awaiting/delayed transfer to long-term care/PCH inside or outside of Winnipeg in the context of Paneling and Alternate Level of Care (ALC). Do we want to combine these as relevant? Do we anticipate wanting to report this data, and what do we need to consider to collect it to be able to do that? Ttenbergen 17:37, 27 November 2025 (CST) | 2025-11-28 3:00:46 PM |
| edit | Transfer for bed management | Julie |
which of the reports/indicators is affected by this? You were working with Bojan to get a metric.... Ttenbergen 17:37, 27 November 2025 (CST)
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| edit | Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry | Julie |
Grace Hospital not filled this out according to instructions documented here, but some old version instead. That makes data between GRA and other sites problematic to compare. Lisa and Gail have more info. We should document which version they have been using so it can be accounted for when using this data. | 2025-06-27 7:15:51 PM |
| edit | Unique CFE module | Tina | fill in | 2025-06-30 4:57:40 PM |
| edit | Visit Admit DtTm differences within same admission | all |
This came up again during Re-analysis and generation of Overstay2 model. We need to add here what we learned and what we need to do about this. Ttenbergen 15:12, 23 February 2025 (CST) | 2025-02-23 9:12:56 PM |