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=== Problem: minimal data set ===
=== Problem: minimal data set ===
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Entering a record without an [[Arrive DtTm]] (such as a pt still in ER) used to cause errors for [[Minimal Data Set]] cross check; the check has been removed.
* I have entered a patient who is accepted to medicine service and still in ER, since patient disposition is not yet known whether EMIP or move to an inpatient unit the information needed to enter into [[Arrive DtTm]] field is not available and therefore cannot be entered. [[Pre-send Checker]] indicates there is an error with minimal data set and collector will not be able to send unless something is entered. What is to entered into the Arrive date/time field for these scenarios when patient disposition is not yet known? Thanks, [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 11:03, 2020 November 26 (CST)  
**This happened to S6 when I tried to send showing error with minimal data set. If I remember correctly, EMIPs accept equals arrive dtm so I just duplicated that and PreSend checker allowed report to send. We would have to change Arrive dtm if/when they transfer to a unit we collect?--[[User:Mdamian|Mailah Damian]] 11:38, 2020 November 26 (CST)
** Good point! We have removed the requirement for an [[Arrive DtTm]] from [[Minimal Data Set]] so [[Pre-send Checker]] so this should not cause trouble any longer. If it still causes trouble, please post here, of not this discussion can be removed around 2020-12-26 once everyone has had a chance to see that this is fixed. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:16, 2020 November 26 (CST)
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=== Entering CCI and other data for pts while in ER ===
=== Entering CCI and other data for pts while in ER ===

Revision as of 22:33, 2020 December 7

Cognos2 Service Starter lists the patient services that came in on the Cognos EPR Report and facilitates getting new records started, or updating existing records with the new service info. It's part of Cognos2 can be opened with the "CSS" button on the Main Form (CCMDB.accdb).

For now, this can be opened with the "CSS" button on the main screen.

Use this to figure out which service records in cognos don't have an entry on your laptop yet, and to start an entry for it.

Use the "exclude" button to remove a line; if the same pt shows up again for the same service with a different date, a new line will show.

Use the "View exclusions" button to see lines that have been excluded; this is by hospital MRN so search/filter with that.

Use the O and + buttons similar to how they are used in Cognos Admitter. Meanings of colours are at the bottom of the screen. The buttons will open the record to the Patient Viewer Tab Cognos ADT2, where other service or unit entries for that record can then be entered.

Why does this not contain unit info?

  1. adding unit info would quickly get us back to the same problem that was Cognos Admitter: each pt can have multiple services and multiple units and there is no good way to list this info without it getting cluttered
  2. More importantly: is unit info actually needed at the time of deciding to start a record? This form is only meant to make you aware that you need to deal with a new pt; either by entering them (in which case the unit data will become available in Patient Viewer Tab Cognos ADT2), or by excluding them.
    1. There were concerns about entering a patient who is in ER under one of our services but has not yet either been discharged (old concept EMIP) or been moved to a unit (regular inpatient). Apparently some people don't enter these until they resolve to either EMIP or in-patient. There really is no reason to wait for this, since data for both would be entered the same: minimal data set now, everything else later.

Problem: minimal data set

Entering a record without an Arrive DtTm (such as a pt still in ER) used to cause errors for Minimal Data Set cross check; the check has been removed.

Entering CCI and other data for pts while in ER

  • Mindy pointed out that, when we moved to starting admissions in ER rather than on unit, we decided that TISS data needs to start at ER admission, but I can't remember if we also resolved whether APACHE physiological variable collection timing and Admit Procedure/Acquired Procedure distinction would based on (service start resp Accept DtTm) or (unit start resp Arrive DtTm) now. I have emailed Mindy, Lisa and Sherry on this, could one of you please take this to Task meeting unless we work it out before then? Ttenbergen 13:14, 2020 November 25 (CST)
    • There is info about this in emails right now and possibly elsewhere on wiki, need to consolidate. Ttenbergen 13:31, 2020 November 26 (CST)
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