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== Additional Info ==
== Additional Info ==
This is an item for the pathogen list, but as the name implies, it is almost never needed.  This is because the other three influenza items cover virtually every influenza manifestation we can think of.  We've included influenza for the pathogen list only for completeness.  
See [[Influenza in ICD10]] for general information about influenza related coding.
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* How do we combine patients who have influenza with or without pneumonia, with any of the sepsis codes? I just tried to combine [[Severe sepsis]] with [[Influenza without pneumonia but with other respiratory manifestations]]. I couldn't code these together without a pathogen, so I added [[Influenza virus NOS -- should almost never be used]]. This gave me an error, because the influenza with other respiratory manifestations has an implied pathogen. I ended up having to separate the bug with the sepsis, as top priority, then the actual influenza infection as my second priority.
=== Coding other infections caused by influenza virus ===
** The problem is that you tried to combine [[Severe sepsis]], which has to have a pathogen with another [[Influenza without pneumonia but with other respiratory manifestations]], which can't have a pathogen combined with it because it implies one. We could turn [[Influenza without pneumonia but with other respiratory manifestations]] into a dual use code that allows using it as a pathogen, but that's really not how that dual use concept was intended. I will send an email to Allan to get his thoughts on this. }}
This is a [[Pathogen]] code, but as the name implies, it is almost never needed.  This is because the other three influenza items cover virtually every influenza manifestation we can think of.  We've included influenza for the pathogen list only for completeness. See [[Influenza in ICD10]] for some examples how it might be used.
 
One example where [[Influenza virus NOS -- should almost never be used]] would be used is to enter [[Combined ICD10 codes]] for any sepsis codes such as [[Severe sepsis]]. In that scenario you might
* combine [[Severe sepsis]] and [[Influenza virus NOS -- should almost never be used]]
* enter an influenza code such as [[Influenza without pneumonia but with other respiratory manifestations]] '''WITHOUT combining it''' with the previous entry
** usually we would combine all three of these, but since one requires a pathogen, and the other doesn't allow one, they would have to be not combined.


== Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==
== Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==

Latest revision as of 10:01, 2020 April 9

ICD10 Diagnosis
Dx: Influenza virus NOS -- should almost never be used
ICD10 code: J11
Pre-ICD10 counterpart: Influenza virus
Charlson/ALERT Scale: none
APACHE Como Component: none
APACHE Acute Component: 2019-0: Respiratory Infection
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Stop Date:
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Additional Info

See Influenza in ICD10 for general information about influenza related coding.

Coding other infections caused by influenza virus

This is a Pathogen code, but as the name implies, it is almost never needed. This is because the other three influenza items cover virtually every influenza manifestation we can think of. We've included influenza for the pathogen list only for completeness. See Influenza in ICD10 for some examples how it might be used.

One example where Influenza virus NOS -- should almost never be used would be used is to enter Combined ICD10 codes for any sepsis codes such as Severe sepsis. In that scenario you might

Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition

Almost always one of the following codes should be used instead of this one:

Don't confuse influenza virus with either of:

See also:

Candidate Combined ICD10 codes

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