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As of version 2022-04-19 of [[CCMDB.accdb]] it is no longer possible to edit the [[Record field]] from [[Patient List]]. | |||
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Create a different screen that omits [[Admit DtTm]] and therefore can have [[Record field]] editable. In the end, we mostly need the [[Dispo DtTm]] field for this, right? | Create a different screen that omits [[Admit DtTm]] and therefore can have [[Record field]] editable. In the end, we mostly need the [[Dispo DtTm]] field for this, right? | ||
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* I don't think we have to see the admit date, dispo date is the most important. A new screen would work, or a new system with checkboxes or something next to names would work as well - although I imagine that is a lot of work behind the scenes for you Tina! Any other ideas? | * I don't think we have to see the admit date, dispo date is the most important. A new screen would work, or a new system with checkboxes or something next to names would work as well - although I imagine that is a lot of work behind the scenes for you Tina! Any other ideas? | ||
** I refer to the Admit date all the time as well as the dispo date as it shows patient length of stay (LOS) at a glance, and is very helpful. STB med collectors do not edit the record field from the patient list. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 15:33, 2022 May 9 (CDT) | ** I refer to the Admit date all the time as well as the dispo date as it shows patient length of stay (LOS) at a glance, and is very helpful. STB med collectors do not edit the record field from the patient list. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 15:33, 2022 May 9 (CDT) | ||
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** What you are saying is a variation of [[#Option 1]]. I would like to do this, but then we would need to standardize how we use this. I am open to working on this. When we discussed this when I dropped by the HSC office the other week it seemed like this would not be a trivial change in process because everyone does what they feel like with the contents of the record field, and we would have to change this to something consistent. Who volunteers to herd the cats? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:37, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ** What you are saying is a variation of [[#Option 1]]. I would like to do this, but then we would need to standardize how we use this. I am open to working on this. When we discussed this when I dropped by the HSC office the other week it seemed like this would not be a trivial change in process because everyone does what they feel like with the contents of the record field, and we would have to change this to something consistent. Who volunteers to herd the cats? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:37, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ||
* I will [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 14:50, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | * I will [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 14:50, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ||
* Tina we no longer need the "patient copy" button in patient viewer as we do it all from Cognos now. | * Tina we no longer need the "patient copy" button in patient viewer as we do it all from Cognos now. | ||
** This is likely about the [[Patient copier button]], so if we want to change it we should discuss there. But since we are talking here now I will keep it here for now. The button has no bearing on whether we can edit the list, removing it would not solve this problem. However, does no one use this any more, or just some sites? It's not part of the problem, here, but if really no one uses it any longer I can get rid of it. It seems we were recently discussing that some still enter patients manually under some circumstances. No idea if there would be one to copy in those cases.[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:34, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ** This is likely about the [[Patient copier button]], so if we want to change it we should discuss there. But since we are talking here now I will keep it here for now. The button has no bearing on whether we can edit the list, removing it would not solve this problem. However, does no one use this any more, or just some sites? It's not part of the problem, here, but if really no one uses it any longer I can get rid of it. It seems we were recently discussing that some still enter patients manually under some circumstances. No idea if there would be one to copy in those cases.[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:34, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ||
* I think Brynn meant to replace the copier button with a checkbox that would generate the MR list for us if we checked it. We thought it might be a space issue, so that could be replaced [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 14:47, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | * I think Brynn meant to replace the copier button with a checkbox that would generate the MR list for us if we checked it. We thought it might be a space issue, so that could be replaced [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 14:47, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ||
* ...However, I wonder does the Notes field need to be visible in the patient list for collectors and whether removal would help?... | * ...However, I wonder does the Notes field need to be visible in the patient list for collectors and whether removal would help?... | ||
** Removing the Notes field wouldn't help solve this, but if it's not needed on this screen we can remove it. Again, use of this field is not really consistent across collectors, so I don't know if any use this in a way where having it in the Patient List is necessary. Open to suggestions. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:39, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ** Removing the Notes field wouldn't help solve this, but if it's not needed on this screen we can remove it. Again, use of this field is not really consistent across collectors, so I don't know if any use this in a way where having it in the Patient List is necessary. Open to suggestions. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:39, 2022 May 10 (CDT) | ||
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**I refer to the notes field in the patient list as well for quick and helpful info; I made the suggestion for removal as the "lesser of two evils" if the problem was related to a space issue for I prefer the Admit date/time is visible over the Notes field, but really both are useful. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 07:11, 2022 May 11 (CDT) | **I refer to the notes field in the patient list as well for quick and helpful info; I made the suggestion for removal as the "lesser of two evils" if the problem was related to a space issue for I prefer the Admit date/time is visible over the Notes field, but really both are useful. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 07:11, 2022 May 11 (CDT) | ||
** In the Patient List I don't use the Notes box often, but if I'm working at home and I know I can finish EMIPs (because the majority of the charting is done in EPR) I'll sort my list by the Notes column to bring my EMIPs to the top. I know not all collectors do it, but when I discharge someone who was an EMIP I'll mark it as an EMIP in the note box for this reason. Now that winter has passed and we shouldn't be getting any more winter storms I may or may not continue in this manner, but that's what I was using it for. [[User:Surbanski|Surbanski]] 10:02, 2022 May 11 (CDT) | ** In the Patient List I don't use the Notes box often, but if I'm working at home and I know I can finish EMIPs (because the majority of the charting is done in EPR) I'll sort my list by the Notes column to bring my EMIPs to the top. I know not all collectors do it, but when I discharge someone who was an EMIP I'll mark it as an EMIP in the note box for this reason. Now that winter has passed and we shouldn't be getting any more winter storms I may or may not continue in this manner, but that's what I was using it for. [[User:Surbanski|Surbanski]] 10:02, 2022 May 11 (CDT) | ||
==Use of the Record Field== | ==Use of the Record Field== | ||
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*Stephanie | *Stephanie | ||
*Val: I put the current location of admitted pt's. ie) ACCU, ICCS, ICMS. '''W''' for those transferred to the ward, '''D/C''' for those discharged from the facility, '''MR''' chart has or needs to be ordered, '''MR*''' when a second MR list is ordered and you need to exclude previously ordered but not completed charts, '''INC''' if I am waiting for more info/need to follow up on something. | *Val: I put the current location of admitted pt's. ie) ACCU, ICCS, ICMS. '''W''' for those transferred to the ward, '''D/C''' for those discharged from the facility, '''MR''' chart has or needs to be ordered, '''MR*''' when a second MR list is ordered and you need to exclude previously ordered but not completed charts, '''INC''' if I am waiting for more info/need to follow up on something. | ||
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Latest revision as of 15:13, 2022 June 8
As of version 2022-04-19 of CCMDB.accdb it is no longer possible to edit the Record field from Patient List. We ended up adding a new MR Organizer form to provide the functionality. |
CauseThis wasn't a deliberate change. We now pull the start date from first service rather than right from the L_Log table. Once it’s a query like that, the field is not editable directly. Short-term work-aroundFor now, you can change the Record field by first opening the record in Patient Viewer. What do we actually need, here?Clearly we need a way for collectors to flag a record for Medical Records Requests, the question is how best to accomplish this now that "as before" is not an option. The management of backlog is currently a personal preference. We should have a standard process for this, both to facilitate cross-coverage but also to better be able to use this data to understand workload. Option 1Use this as an opportunity to standardize how we manage the Patient List. A different process may no longer require us to change this field around. I just pulled a list of all record entries for incomplete records, and there are 91 different values in this field.
Option 2Create a different screen that omits Admit DtTm and therefore can have Record field editable. In the end, we mostly need the Dispo DtTm field for this, right? Discussions
Use of the Record FieldHSC
MR when I have ordered the chart
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