Task Team Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2020

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Hemothorax or hemopneumothorax, nontraumaticJust wondering whether this code could be combined with iatrogenic causes similar to the guideline for:

Guideline for Iatrogenic Pneumothorax

According to our general rule of not coding iatrogenic events as traumas, code an iatrogenic pneumothorax as


Iatrogenic, puncture or laceration, related to a procedure or surgery NOS

Plus the most appropriate of the following;

Pneumothorax, tension, nontraumatic

Pneumothorax, nontension, nontraumatic

Pneumothorax, nontraumatic, NOS

Thanks, Pamela Piche 08:55, 2024 March 19 (CDT)

  • Allan made the initial entry of not to use this as an iatrogenic or trauma code in 2017, so let's discuss this at TASK Lisa Kaita 15:03, 2024 April 5 (CDT)
5 April 2024 20:03:05
Iatrogenic, mechanical complication/dysfunction, internal prosthetic device or implant or graft NOSAt our last TASK meeting the decision was made to exclude spontaneous rupture of an ETT cuff or cuff leak, but we are wondering if this is correct based on what is listed in the includes section of this page and what is in Iatrogenic, mechanical complication/dysfunction, internal orthopedic prosthetic device or implant or graft or bone device and Iatrogenic, mechanical complication/dysfunction, cardiac or vascular prosthetic device or implant or graft, NOS Lisa Kaita 12:37, 2024 March 20 (CDT)20 March 2024 17:37:32
Myocardial infarction, acute (AMI), NOSICD 10 has this code for STEMI:

2024 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code I21.3

  • ST elevation (STEMI) myocardial infarction of unspecified site that includes transmural (Q wave) infarction

ICD 10 has this code for NSTEMI:

2024 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code I21.4

  • Non-ST elevation (NSTEMI) myocardial infarction that includes Nontransmural myocardial infarction NOS

Would it be less labor intensive for collectors to be able to use these codes instead of MI codes dependent upon development (or not) of Q waves as this is problematic to determine. Thank you, Pamela Piche 07:49, 2024 April 5 (CDT)

  • I have added this to TASK, in 2019 ICD 10 did not have STEMI/NSTEMI codes, now in the 2024 version they do, I agree with Pam can we switch to the new codes? Lisa Kaita 15:10, 2024 April 5 (CDT)
5 April 2024 20:10:42
STB ICUs VAP Rate, CLIBSI Rate Summary
  • IIRC we collected CAM positive (TISS Item) specifically for this, right? If so, can we stop collecting it? And can we make sure a stoppage like this in the future results in reviewing what we collect? Ttenbergen 10:02, 2024 March 20 (CDT)
    • Delirium rate per 1000 days per unit is being reported in the OIT Reports. ---JMojica 11:49, 2024 March 20 (CDT)
      • As in Delirium days is reported in Critical Care Program Quality Indicator Report? But that doesn't mention anything about per-1000-days. Ttenbergen 17:00, 2024 March 20 (CDT)
      • The rate is mentioned in the succeeding definition with the delirium days as numerator. Your proposal here is to stop collecting TISS item CAM positive which I disagree because that TISS item is being used and reported as rate in OIT Report. Besides, the reason why it was dropped in in the STB VAPCLI report is because the requestor has changed. Brett Hiebert who used to request this was involved in the VAP group and another Delirium group so he asked to have both as one request. Brett had left and the VAP group filled up a new request to continue the VAP data and not on the delirium data. --JMojica 13:58, 2024 March 25 (CDT)
  • 8 April 2024 16:27:53

    Also see Task Team Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2019

    ICU Database Task Group Meeting – December 11, 2019

    See Task Team Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes 2019#ICU Database Task Group Meeting – December 11, 2019