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{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Mosquito-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis)}}

{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) (caused by Measles virus)}}

{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Tick-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis)}}

{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, bacterial}}

{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, viral }}

{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, infectious NOS}}

{{DX tag | Infection | | Meningoencephalitis |

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* West Nile | 7700 | No | 0 | | | | }}

*http://www.~~encephalitis~~.~~info/information/types-of-encephalitis/types-of-infectious-encephalitis/~~

''Meningoencephalitis is always viral or other atypical pathogen..but it is NOT bacterial or fungal.''

This DX is not the same as [[Meningitis]]

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis

== bacterial encephalitis - not applicable ==

~~{{discussion}}~~

In ICD10 it will be possible to code the following as [[Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, bacterial]], so this info does not need to be copied to the ICd10 page.

**How do we code "NMDA" encephalitis? : "Anti-NMDA receptor encephalitis is a disease occurring when antibodies produced by the body's own immune system attack NMDA receptors in the brain. NMDA receptors are proteins that control electrical impulses in the brain."

*It is not an infection, it ~~is an autoimmune disease. We only have infections or toxicity for encephalitis. I can put immunological problems-other but it fails~~ to ~~capture that~~ the ~~brain is affected then. --~~[[~~User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:29~~, ~~2016 March 8 (CST)~~

**How about using "other-metabolic encephalitis" as well as your immunological code?[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]]

**The code you mean is "[[Other Metabolic Encephalopathy]]~~" That is one option~~, ~~I think I will discuss~~ this ~~with Dr~~. ~~Garland. Thanks for your thoughts on this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 18:06, 2016 March 8 (CST)~~

* in researching encephalitis, it does appear that bacterial meningitis like pneumococcal meningitis can lead to encephalitis (although it is very rare). Our codes presently do not allow a bacterial pathogen for meningoencephalitis and we do not have a code for only encephalitis. I put two websites above if anyone is interested. Should we allow a pathogen option for meningoencephalitis in light of this?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:23, 2015 September 23 (CDT)

**encephalitis is a DX code with the proper term being '''meningoencephalitis'''. But it is not meningitis.

**Encephalitis/meningoencephalitis is '''always viral''' or '''other atypical pathogen'''..but it is '''NOT bacterial or fungal.''' So the pathogens we have listed are adequate.

**Meningitis however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.

**[[Meningitis]] however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.

**'''gram pos/neg does NOT apply''' to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably ~~meningitis~~, not encephalitis. (ie: the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing). Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “[[Meningitis]]”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.

**'''gram pos/neg does NOT apply''' to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably [[Meningitis]], not encephalitis. (ie: the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing). Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “[[Meningitis]]”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.

[[Category:Unusually coded infections]]

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+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Mosquito-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis)}}
+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) (caused by Measles virus)}}
+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Tick-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis)}}
+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, bacterial}}
+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, viral }}
+{{PreICD10 dx | NewDxArticle = Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, infectious NOS}}
 {{DX tag | Infection |  | Meningoencephalitis |
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 *   West Nile | 7700 | No | 0 |  |  |  | }}
-*http://www.encephalitis.info/information/types-of-encephalitis/types-of-infectious-encephalitis/
+''Meningoencephalitis is always viral or other atypical pathogen..but it is NOT bacterial or fungal.''
+This DX is not the same as [[Meningitis]]
 *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis
 == bacterial encephalitis - not applicable ==
-{{discussion}}
+In ICD10 it will be possible to code the following as [[Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, bacterial]], so this info does not need to be copied to the ICd10 page.
-**How do we code "NMDA" encephalitis? :  "Anti-NMDA receptor encephalitis is a disease occurring when antibodies produced by the body's own immune system attack NMDA receptors in the brain. NMDA receptors are proteins that control electrical impulses in the brain."
-*It is not an infection, it is an autoimmune disease.  We only have infections or toxicity for encephalitis.  I can put immunological problems-other but it fails to capture that the brain is affected then.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:29, 2016 March 8 (CST)
-**How about using "other-metabolic encephalitis" as well as your immunological code?[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]]
-**The code you mean is "[[Other Metabolic Encephalopathy]]"  That is one option, I think I will discuss this with Dr. Garland.  Thanks for your thoughts on this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 18:06, 2016 March 8 (CST)
 * in researching encephalitis, it does appear that bacterial meningitis like pneumococcal meningitis can lead to encephalitis (although it is very rare).  Our codes presently do not allow a bacterial pathogen for meningoencephalitis and we do not have a code for only encephalitis.  I put two websites above if anyone is interested.   Should we allow a pathogen option for meningoencephalitis in light of this?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:23, 2015 September 23 (CDT)
 **encephalitis is a DX code with the proper term being '''meningoencephalitis'''. But it is not meningitis.
 **Encephalitis/meningoencephalitis is '''always viral''' or '''other atypical pathogen'''..but it is '''NOT bacterial or fungal.''' So the  pathogens we have listed are adequate.
-**Meningitis however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.
+**[[Meningitis]] however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.
-**'''gram pos/neg does NOT apply''' to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably meningitis, not encephalitis. (ie:  the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing).  Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “[[Meningitis]]”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.
+**'''gram pos/neg does NOT apply''' to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably [[Meningitis]], not encephalitis. (ie:  the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing).  Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “[[Meningitis]]”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.
 [[Category:Unusually coded infections]]