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CCI would allow for the collection of most things we currently collect as counted labs ([[:Category:Manually_collected_labs]]). This page is  for the decision process whether we should go this route.  
CCI would allow for the collection of most things we currently collect as counted labs ([[:Category:Manually_collected_labs]]). This page is  for the decision process whether we should go this route.  
{{Discuss | who=Task | question=Should lab counts move to CCI? }}


== Pros of moving to CCI ==
== Pros of moving to CCI ==
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==== CXRs and scan counting in CCI concerns====
==== CXRs and scan counting in CCI concerns====
{{Discuss | who = Allan | question = repeated CXRs - if we do collect them it will be a nuisance; if we don't they won't compare to the labs count [[CXR]] we are doing now, that this is supposed to replace. How should we proceed?}}
[[CXR (plain film)]] will now be collected as [[CCI collect count each]].
 
*Do we have to enter a CXR for each day it is done or can we enter CXR once and then keep using the times feature?
*For longer stay patients this could be 50 entries.
*Why do we need to know what day a CXR was done on?
*What is wrong with using the lab count feature we now use? The same for blood gases and scans.--[[User:LBilesky|LBilesky]] 14:05, 2018 January 19 (CST)
** That is what is planned for now, but this might be worth talking about again to confirm it is worth it.
*** Does the pt travel out of the unit for this?


Quick look at pts with arrive dttm this year in CFE:  
Quick look at pts with arrive dttm this year in CFE:  
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==== ABG/VBG counting in CCI & concerns ====
==== ABG/VBG counting in CCI & concerns ====
{{Discuss | who = Allan | question = repeated  ABG/VBG counts - to many rows of data in CCI & lots of rows to scroll down to check what has been entered.  time consuming.}}
[[Blood gas, arterial]] and [[Blood gas, venous]] will now be collected as [[CCI collect count each]].
* I see arterial blood gases are on the picklist.  However, Dr Garland had said that arterial blood gases and venous blood gases will remain in our count list unlike all the other things we count.  Should arterial blood gases be removed from the CCI pick list?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 13:29, 2018 April 9 (CDT)
*I have tested a few pts and included ABG/VBG counts. 
*What is this being used for? 
*Is the counting necessary? This is a time Counting is a time consuming task, besides counting now also entering dates. 
**Example:  I had 2 pts that had 50-100 ABG/VBG's to count and enter dates for. I found there was too many rows of data in addition to the CCI being collected, so lots to scroll through to check what I had entered.  [[p:Joanna Velasco]]


Quick look at pts with arrive dttm this year in CFE:  
Quick look at pts with arrive dttm this year in CFE:  
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== Summary ==
== Summary ==
Count in CCI pick or component as any other CCI
Count in CCI pick or component as any other CCI
* albumin5, 25%  - on CCI (not 5 vs 25, and that's OK per Trish)
* albumin5, 25% - pick [[Transfusion of albumin]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Transfusion of albumin | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
* Packed cells - on CCI
** (not 5 vs 25, and that's OK per Trish)
* Platelets - on CCI
* Packed cells - pick [[Transfusion of PRBC]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Transfusion of PRBC | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
* FFP - on CCI
* Platelets - pick [[Transfusion of platelets]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Transfusion of platelets | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
* CT - on picklist and comp2
* FFP - pick [[Transfusion of plasma products]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Transfusion of plasma products | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
* MRI - on picklist and comp2
* US Echo - pick [[Echocardiogram of heart]]
* US Abd - comp1 [[(I) Abdomen, Pelvis]]/[[(I) Digestive System, NOS]] comp2 [[Ultrasound]] - will this give us the "Abd" count we need
 
Code one line, count for duration, kind of like [[CCI Procedures coded once per ward admission]]
*ABG - pick [[Blood gas, arterial]]
*VBG - pick [[Blood gas, venous]]
 
{{Discussion}} If ABG and VBG are coded on one line then counted for duration, what date is to be entered? The first date performed or the last?
If ABG and VBG are to be collected as per above instructions, then should these collection instructions be added to the ABG and VBG articles?
[[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 13:43, 2018 October 25 (CDT)


Questions:
* CXR - pick [[CXR (plain film)]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: CXR (plain film) | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
*CXR - CXR plain film - Laura says tedious, but would be nice to have daily - how common are these really
* CT - on picklist and comp2 - the [[statistician]] confirmed she can work with this for reporting
{{Discussion}}
* MRI - on picklist and comp2 - the [[statistician]] confirmed she can work with this for reporting
* What are people doing here for CXR daily or count for the duration?
* US Echo - pick [[ECHO (echocardiogram of heart)]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: ECHO (echocardiogram of heart) | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
**Thus far I have been entering daily and count would be the total number of CXR's for that day.[[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 13:43, 2018 October 25 (CDT)
* US Abd - comp1 [[(I) Abdomen, Pelvis]]/[[(I) Digestive System, NOS]] comp2 [[Ultrasound]]
* ABG - pick [[Blood gas, arterial]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Blood gas, arterial | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}
* VBG - pick [[Blood gas, venous]] - [[CCI Collection Mode]]: {{#show: Blood gas, venous) | ?Has CCI Collection Mode}}


== Related Articles ==
== Related Articles ==
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[[Category: CCI]]
[[Category:CCI]]
[[Category: ICD10/CCI Conversion]]
[[Category:ICD10/CCI Conversion]]
[[Category: Manually_collected_labs]]
[[Category:Manually_collected_labs]]
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