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{{DX tag | Neurological Problem | [[:Category: Medical Problem | Medical Problem]] | Violent 2nd to Dementia| VIOLENT 2nd TO DEMENTIA | [[53800 -  Violent 2nd to dementia]] | No | 0 | '''Critical Care and Medicine''' | Currently Collected |May 27, 2004 | |}}
{{PreICD10 dx
| NewDxArticle = Violent behavior
}}
{{DX tag | Neurological Problem | Medical Problem | Violent 2nd to [[Dementia]]| VIOLENT 2nd TO DEMENTIA | 53800 -  Violent 2nd to dementia | No | 1 | '''Critical Care and Medicine''' | Currently Collected |May 27, 2004 | |}}


Violent behavior secondary to "dementia" it the only "specific" reason we are tracking violent behavior.  We will not change this until we go to ICU10. As discussed with Dr. Allan Garland. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:13, 2012 July 16 (CDT)
Violent behavior secondary to [[Dementia]] it the only "specific" reason we are tracking violent behavior.  We will not change this until we go to ICU10. As discussed with Dr. Allan Garland. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:13, 2012 July 16 (CDT)


In ICD-10 coding, this single entity becomes a co-code of Violent behavior + the appropriate type of dementia.
== Do not use code for non-dementia violence ==
There are psychological problems we code however, we do not differentiate if violence is or is not associated with the any of the following conditions:
There are psychological problems we code however, we do not differentiate if violence is or is not associated with the any of the following conditions:
*899-3- [[Schizophrenia]] (comorbid)
*899-3- [[Schizophrenia]] (comorbid)
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*540-00- [[Confusion/Delirium]]
*540-00- [[Confusion/Delirium]]
*Head Injuries (code?)
*Head Injuries (code?)
 
** interesting, no code in [[:Category:Trauma]]; could find neurologic seizure head trauma 50904, a search of the s_alldiagnoses table didn't find anything except OR codes...
== Code use for non-dementia reasons ==
{{Discussion}}
* is anyone using this code for other reasons for violent behavior?[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:35, 2012 July 16 (CDT)


== Name shortening ==
== Name shortening ==
The full name in the coding guide is "VIOLENT BEHAVIOR - 2nd TO MODERATE/ SEVERE DEMENTIA" but had to be shortened to fit into the [[CCMDB.mdb]].
The full name in the coding guide is "VIOLENT BEHAVIOR - 2nd TO MODERATE/ SEVERE DEMENTIA" but had to be shortened to fit into the [[CCMDB.mdb]].
{{Discussion}}
*the above name shortening is not good, creates confusion and folks are using this code for other reasons for violent behaviour. This is not what we want.  Please fix wording in ccmdb.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:13, 2012 July 16 (CDT)
** Trish, I can make it longer in the CCMDB.mdb, but it won't be visible because the field is too short. Have a look in your version of the program to see what I mean. If you give me a wording that will fit the field I can update. Maybe "Violence" rather than Violent Behaviour... something like that. Even partial words or abbreviations would be OK as long as they cause looking up rather than assuming. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:32, 2012 July 17 (CDT)
***Violent 2nd to Dementia?[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 11:03, 2012 July 17 (CDT)
****changed for [[CCMDB.mdb_Change_Log_2012#ver_2012-07-13]] [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:47, 2012 July 17 (CDT)


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