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== Additional Info ==
== Additional Info ==
While this seems like the kind of thing that should be coded in [[CCI]] instead, there is no CCI code for this, so it is coded here.
*this code is '''not intended for use with temporary''' pacemaker changes via A-V wires or transvenous wire; it is intended for use with those patients who have the pacemaker/ICD comorbid ie a '''permanent''' pacemaker/ICD
<!-- AG I looked and looked.  They must have just missed it.  So our choices are: (a) leave it as it, (b) remove this ICD10 code [which won't be so bad, because this is a pretty minor procedure anyway], or (c) keep it but include it "as if" it were a CCI picklist item, i.e. it shows up like that to the collectors, though it goes into the right place as an ICD10 code.  TINA and TRISH -- what do you think?
** option (c) would require a bunch of special purpose coding, more than I think it would provide value. Will email Trish and Julie with link to get their thoughts. If we can't resolve it this way it will go to task, I already tagged it for that. I prefer option (a) + making sure that the wiki pages are as well cross-linked as possible, noting this weird special case.
** I prefer option (a) - Besides the CCI counterpart did not mention adjustment/management but only insertion. --[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 10:55, 2018 December 20 (CST)
* leave it (a).[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 17:44, 2018 December 21 (CST)
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== Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==
== Alternate ICD10s to consider coding instead or in addition ==
*[[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, has one]]
* [[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, adjustment/management]]
*[[Iatrogenic, mechanical complication/dysfunction, cardiac electronic device]]
* [[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, has one]]
* [[Iatrogenic, mechanical complication/dysfunction, cardiac electronic device]]
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== Related CCI Codes ==
== Related CCI Codes ==
*[[(T) Cardiac Conduction System]]
If added during this stay you may be able to add one of the following:  
*[[Implantation of Internal Device]]
* [[Defibrillator, insertion]]
 
* [[Pacemaker insertion, permanent]]
== Questions ==
* [[Pacemaker insertion, temporary]]
{{DiscussTask |
For consistency, should this code not be a CCI instead of an ICD10? I can see where [[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, has one]] would be ICD10, but adjustment seems like a procedure. Ttenbergen 00:17, 2018 October 30 (CDT)
*AG --- I completely agree with you, but weirdly, there IS NO CCI CODE for adjustment of a pacer or defibrillator.  I looked and looked.  They must have just missed it.  So our choices are: (a) leave it as it, (b) remove this ICD10 code [which won't be so bad, because this is a pretty minor procedure anyway], or (c) keep it but include it "as if" it were a CCI picklist item, i.e. it shows up like that to the collectors, though it goes into the right place as an ICD10 code.  TINA and TRISH -- what do you think?
** option (c) would require a bunch of special purpose coding, more than I think it would provide value. Will email Trish and Julie with link to get their thoughts. If we can't resolve it this way it will go to task, I already tagged it for that. I prefer option (a) + making sure that the wiki pages are as well cross-linked as possible, noting this weird special case.
** I prefer option (a) - Besides the CCI counterpart did not mention adjustment/management but only insertion. --[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 10:55, 2018 December 20 (CST)
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ICD10 Codes:  
* [[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, adjustment/management]]
* [[Cardiac pacemaker or defibrillator, has one]]
 
CCI Code:
*  [[CCI Picklist]]:
** [[Defibrillator, insertion]]
** [[Pacemaker insertion, permanent]]
** [[Pacemaker insertion, temporary]]


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