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** '''Do not code BRR or XBR''' when a cooling protocol is used to normalize temperature for any type of '''non-cardiac arrest''' patients. | ** '''Do not code BRR or XBR''' when a cooling protocol is used to normalize temperature for any type of '''non-cardiac arrest''' patients. | ||
=== how important is the 12 hr part? === | |||
{{Discuss@task | how important is the 12 hr part?}} | |||
We want to capture all patients who are cooled post '''cardiac arrest''' '''''whether they meet criteria for [[Cardiac Arrest Cooling Protocol]] or not'''''. A significant portion of patients following cardiac arrest do not meet ''all'' the criteria listed, however, based on the available evidence it is reasonable to consider cooling them. | We want to capture all patients who are cooled post '''cardiac arrest''' '''''whether they meet criteria for [[Cardiac Arrest Cooling Protocol]] or not'''''. A significant portion of patients following cardiac arrest do not meet ''all'' the criteria listed, however, based on the available evidence it is reasonable to consider cooling them. | ||
{{Discussion}} | {{Discussion}} | ||
* I wonder how important it is to exclude the patients that are cooled less than 12 hours? Sometimes the patient is only in the unit a shorter time after arrest and they may die '''or''' it is difficult to tell exactly when the TTM ended. Would it not be better to include all TTM patients instead of excluding those that are less than 12 hours on the protocol? --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:12, 2017 November 28 (CST) | * I wonder how important it is to exclude the patients that are cooled less than 12 hours? Sometimes the patient is only in the unit a shorter time after arrest and they may die '''or''' it is difficult to tell exactly when the TTM ended. Would it not be better to include all TTM patients instead of excluding those that are less than 12 hours on the protocol? --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:12, 2017 November 28 (CST) | ||
** I agree with Laura. At the Concordia the charting is so poor it is very hard to tell if the cooling occured for 12 hours or not.Could we ask about this in task? [[User:GHall|GHall]] 11:40, 2018 January 22 (CST) | ** I agree with Laura. At the Concordia the charting is so poor it is very hard to tell if the cooling occured for 12 hours or not.Could we ask about this in task? [[User:GHall|GHall]] 11:40, 2018 January 22 (CST) | ||
*** I have emailed Allan about this and put it on the list for Task meeting. Ttenbergen 12:26, 2018 February 8 (CST) | |||
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