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=== time consuming ===
* It is much simpler and faster to count the number of CXR's, ABGs, and other tests in our lab counts than to put a CCI entry for each every day they are done.  
* It is much simpler and faster to count the number of CXR's, ABGs, and other tests in our lab counts than to put a CCI entry for each every day they are done.  
* Laura did a test collection and found this to be much slower. Trish will coordinate more testing for this. Ttenbergen 12:52, 2018 May 9 (CDT)
 
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*For example:
one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks
*on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission. 
*It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI. 
*It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs. 
*If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer.  No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab.   It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)
**Laura, we discussed your testing at task.  A question came up in regards to what method did you use to enter these 86 ABG's? 
***Were you counting number of ABG PER day and then enter that count into CCI and assigning a date? or
***Did you go from EPR to paper then into CCMDB CCI?
***Did you use the + button? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]]
****I did the CCI entries exactly as directed using the + button for new entries and putting the # for each day in the column for that.  I did it as efficiently as I could, I never use paper. You can likely see it in the profile if you would like to look at it.  I think it was MICU profile #31216.  I sent it in after April 17th. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:10, 2018 April 26 (CDT)
*****Entering these tests is very tedious and time consuming and it takes away from our time doing diagnostic coding.  It took me 20 mins to enter just CXR's on a patient that was a long stay patient and I was only half done. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:19, 2018 May 1 (CDT) }}


==== CXRs and scan counting in CCI concerns====
==== CXRs and scan counting in CCI concerns====
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*Is the counting necessary? This is a time Counting is a time consuming task, besides counting now also entering dates.   
*Is the counting necessary? This is a time Counting is a time consuming task, besides counting now also entering dates.   
**Example:  I had 2 pts that had 50-100 ABG/VBG's to count and enter dates for. I found there was too many rows of data in addition to the CCI being collected, so lots to scroll through to check what I had entered.  [[p:Joanna Velasco]]
**Example:  I had 2 pts that had 50-100 ABG/VBG's to count and enter dates for. I found there was too many rows of data in addition to the CCI being collected, so lots to scroll through to check what I had entered.  [[p:Joanna Velasco]]
=== data entry test to determine extra time it takes to enter ===
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*For example:
one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks
*on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission. 
*It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI. 
*It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs. 
*If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer.  No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab.  It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)
**Laura, we discussed your testing at task.  A question came up in regards to what method did you use to enter these 86 ABG's? 
***Were you counting number of ABG PER day and then enter that count into CCI and assigning a date? or
***Did you go from EPR to paper then into CCMDB CCI?
***Did you use the + button? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]]
****I did the CCI entries exactly as directed using the + button for new entries and putting the # for each day in the column for that.  I did it as efficiently as I could, I never use paper. You can likely see it in the profile if you would like to look at it.  I think it was MICU profile #31216.  I sent it in after April 17th. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:10, 2018 April 26 (CDT)
*****Entering these tests is very tedious and time consuming and it takes away from our time doing diagnostic coding.  It took me 20 mins to enter just CXR's on a patient that was a long stay patient and I was only half done. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:19, 2018 May 1 (CDT) }}




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