Apache II General Collection Guidelines: Difference between revisions

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* Urine Output is ≤ 135 cc in an 8 hour period during the first 24 hours in unit.

~~APACHE points for Creatinine are~~ '''~~doubled~~''' ~~if YES to the above two criteria~~.

'''ARF''' is '''not''' recorded for all other cases including those patients who have history of Chronic Renal Failure (CRF) and are on dialysis.

~~'''ARF''' is '''not''' recorded~~ for ~~all other cases including those patients who have history of Chronic Renal Failure (CRF) and~~ are ~~on dialysis~~.

APACHE points for Creatinine are doubled if the above two criteria are met.

=== Discussion ===

* is it no or yes for a CRF patient who happens to meet the "yes" requirements?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT) Correct [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]

* is it no or yes for a CRF patient who happens to meet the "yes" requirements?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT) ** Correct [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]

* ~~are '''all''' apache points doubled if~~ ARF ~~is recorded~~?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT) ~~NO, just for creatinine[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]~~

*** Let me rephrase that. If a patient has a creatinine of >= 133 and a urine output <= 135 and is also CRF and on dialysis, will they be coded as ARF? The instruction above doesn't address that case and needs to be changed to instruct to either say "yes" or "no" this scenario. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 09:32, 18 June 2008 (CDT)

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 * Urine Output is ≤ 135 cc in an 8 hour period during the first 24 hours in unit.
-APACHE points for Creatinine are '''doubled''' if YES to the above two criteria.
+'''ARF''' is '''not''' recorded for all other cases including those patients who have history of Chronic Renal Failure (CRF) and are on dialysis.
-'''ARF''' is '''not''' recorded for all other cases including those patients who have history of Chronic Renal Failure (CRF) and are on dialysis.
+APACHE points for Creatinine are doubled if the above two criteria are met.
 === Discussion ===
-* is it no or yes for a CRF patient who happens to meet the "yes" requirements?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT) Correct  [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]
+* is it no or yes for a CRF patient who happens to meet the "yes" requirements?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT) ** Correct  [[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]
-* are '''all''' apache points doubled if ARF is recorded?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:51, 4 June 2008 (CDT)  NO, just for creatinine[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]]
+*** Let me rephrase that. If a patient has a creatinine of >= 133 and a urine output <= 135 and is also CRF and on dialysis, will they be coded as ARF? The instruction above doesn't address that case and needs to be changed to instruct to either say "yes" or "no" this scenario. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 09:32, 18 June 2008 (CDT)
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