Apache II General Collection Guidelines: Difference between revisions

Discussion: 4 or 24 hours?
Discussion: Question re Use of pre-admission ER lab results
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*NOTE: The Higher the APACHE score, the sicker the patient.
*NOTE: The Higher the APACHE score, the sicker the patient.


=== Discussion ===
=== Use of pre-admission ER lab results ===
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'''The following refers to an ongoing discussion, not to a change in collection rules:'''
'''The following refers to an ongoing discussion, not to a change in collection rules:'''
As discussed in the [[:Category:Critical Care Review Group|Critical Care Review Group]], the last 4 hours in the ER preceeding admission to the ICU may be admissible data for APACHE values if no data is available for the first 24 hours ''in'' ICU. Is this a rule we are using? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:12, 17 October 2008 (CDT)
As discussed in the [[:Category:Critical Care Review Group|Critical Care Review Group]], the last 4 hours in the ER preceeding admission to the ICU may be admissible data for APACHE values if no data is available for the first 24 hours ''in'' ICU. Is this a rule we are using? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:12, 17 October 2008 (CDT)
* The above seems to be in conflict with the missing value rule below. Is it 4 or 24 hrs prior to admission? Is this really limited to values from the ER?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 15:38, 2 May 2011 (CDT)[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:00, 2012 September 6 (CDT)
* The above seems to be in conflict with the missing value rule below. Is it 4 or 24 hrs prior to admission? Is this really limited to values from the ER?[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 15:38, 2 May 2011 (CDT)[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:00, 2012 September 6 (CDT)
** anyone? Ttenbergen 14:12, 2014 September 19 (CDT)


== Missing Values Rule for APACHE II ==
== Missing Values Rule for APACHE II ==