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==== Questions? ====

*For the procedures listed specifically like arterial lines, PEG, hemodialysis, etc. Do you want only if done during their stay or since arrival to the hospital, or if they already had this done prior to arrival. There are patients in the community with a PEG and on hemodialysis for example. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 08:07, 2018 March 7 (CST)

** Ah! Yes, will our restrictions for procedures with [[Px Type]] "admit" be the same as for on unit?

* Just to check: You do not want central lines included?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 08:07, 2018 March 7 (CST)

* In your instructions you are listing only 8 therapeutic procedures other than the ones done outside the unit or endoscope ones. However, when I look at the picklist, it lists many more therapeutic procedures. What is correct? You are contradicting your own instructions. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:28, 2018 March 7 (CST)

* Is your link in this article for the picklist correct? It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want. Maybe this picklist is not the real one we will be using? --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)

** Those 8 procedures would be coded even if done on unit. The rest would only be coded if done off unit. So they need to be on the picklist (or component list) to code them. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)

*There is no mention in your instructions regarding diagnostic procedures.

* Is your link in this article for the picklist correct? It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want. Maybe this picklist is not the real one we will be using? --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)

** If you mean [[CCI Picklist]], then yes, it's correct. But the GI Scopes are currently on the [[CCI Component]] list only and would be coded as [[Inspection, Exploration]]. The scope part would have been part 3 (how it was done) an we no longer code that. {{discussion}} I will leave it to Allan to comment on whether or not we want to add GI Scope to the Picklist. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)

* There is no mention in your instructions regarding diagnostic procedures.

** Because they are just procedures. I also don't specifically mention Obstetrical Procedures. Is it a list of these that you are missing. We could add that, the pages that contain the subsets of the codes are as follows, I just can't think of a helpful place in the procedures to integrate them; please feel free to move them up to a useful spot:

***[[Diagnostic Procedure]]

***[[Imaging Procedure]]

***[[Miscellaneous Procedure]]

***[[Obstetric Procedure]]

***[[Therapeutic Procedure]]

* There is a diagnostic thoracentesis on your pick list but not a therapeutic one. This should be on the picklist as it is very common.

* Where all the surgical codes on the pick list?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)

** I am still waiting for a bunch of therapeutic codes. Allan is aware. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)

* The link in CCMDB to the CCI picklist is not working.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:42, 2018 March 7 (CST)

** Was able to replicate problem, fixed now. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)

* What happened to the third component in CCI? CCMDB only has 2 components listed in the component entries section. Should be: 1. Body system or location 2. What was done 3. how it was done (open, percutaneous, etc). We need the 3 sections to get the whole picture. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:44, 2018 March 8 (CST)

** It was decided to omit the 3. component. I think it may have been discussed at a task meeting you missed. But that doesn't change that we should have explained it to those who are not at those meetings. So, good catch, it's explained now. I will take this out eventually, since it would never have been a question if an earlier draft had not included it. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)

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 ==== Questions? ====
 *For the procedures listed specifically like arterial lines, PEG, hemodialysis, etc.  Do you want only if done during their stay or since arrival to the hospital,  or if they already had this done prior to arrival.  There are patients in the community with a PEG and on hemodialysis for example.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 08:07, 2018 March 7 (CST)
+** Ah! Yes, will our restrictions for procedures with [[Px Type]] "admit" be the same as for on unit?
 * Just to check:  You do not want central lines included?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 08:07, 2018 March 7 (CST)
 * In your instructions you are listing only 8 therapeutic procedures other than the ones done outside the unit or endoscope ones.  However, when I look at the picklist, it lists many more therapeutic procedures.   What is correct?  You are contradicting your own instructions.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:28, 2018 March 7 (CST)
-* Is your link in this article for the picklist correct?  It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want.   Maybe this picklist is not the real one we will be using?  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)
+** Those 8 procedures would be coded even if done on unit. The rest would only be coded if done off unit. So they need to be on the picklist (or component list) to code them.  Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)
-*There is no mention in your instructions regarding diagnostic procedures.
+* Is your link in this article for the picklist correct?  It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want.   Maybe this picklist is not the real one we will be using? --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)
+** If you mean [[CCI Picklist]], then yes, it's correct. But the GI Scopes are currently on the [[CCI Component]] list only and would be coded as [[Inspection, Exploration]]. The scope part would have been part 3 (how it was done) an we no longer code that. {{discussion}} I will leave it to Allan to comment on whether or not we want to add GI Scope to the Picklist. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)
+* There is no mention in your instructions regarding diagnostic procedures.
+** Because they are just procedures. I also don't specifically mention Obstetrical Procedures. Is it a list of these that you are missing. We could add that, the pages that contain the subsets of the codes are as follows, I just can't think of a helpful place in the procedures to integrate them; please feel free to move them up to a useful spot:
+***[[Diagnostic Procedure]]
+***[[Imaging Procedure]]
+***[[Miscellaneous Procedure]]
+***[[Obstetric Procedure]]
+***[[Therapeutic Procedure]]
 * There is a diagnostic thoracentesis on your pick list but not a therapeutic one.  This should be on the picklist as it is very common.
 * Where all the surgical codes on the pick list?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)
+** I am still waiting for a bunch of therapeutic codes. Allan is aware. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)
 * The link in CCMDB to the CCI picklist is not working.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:42, 2018 March 7 (CST)
+** Was able to replicate problem, fixed now. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)
 * What happened to the third component in CCI?   CCMDB only has 2 components listed in the component entries section.  Should be: 1. Body system or location 2. What was done   3. how it was done (open, percutaneous, etc). We need the 3 sections to get the whole picture.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:44, 2018 March 8 (CST)
+** It was decided to omit the 3. component. I think it may have been discussed at a task meeting you missed. But that doesn't change that we should have explained it to those who are not at those meetings. So, good catch, it's explained now. I will take this out eventually, since it would never have been a question if an earlier draft had not included it. Ttenbergen 00:34, 2018 March 15 (CDT)
 == Reporting ==