Query check CCI TISS Intubation vs Intubated: Difference between revisions

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#* not necessarily, could have been done in OR or elsewhere
#* not necessarily, could have been done in OR or elsewhere


==Julie requested==
== extubate only when new tube inserted ==
Moved here from ''Query TISS Errors ETT consistent'' which turned out to be a duplicate of this same issue.
=== extubate only when tube present ===
{{TISS w Nr | Planned extubation (TISS Item)}} or {{TISS w Nr | Unplanned extubation (TISS Item)}} can only be marked when {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}} is marked in same day.
 
=== new tube inserted ===
When {{TISS w Nr | Insertion of ETT (TISS Item)}}(T40) is marked, the {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}}(T22) must also be marked in same day.
 
=== extubate only when new tube inserted ===
{{TISS w Nr | Planned extubation (TISS Item)}} or {{TISS w Nr | Unplanned extubation (TISS Item)}} can only be marked when both 1) {{TISS w Nr | Insertion of ETT (TISS Item)}} is marked on same day '''and''' 2) {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}} is marked in previous day.
{{TISS w Nr | Planned extubation (TISS Item)}} or {{TISS w Nr | Unplanned extubation (TISS Item)}} can only be marked when both 1) {{TISS w Nr | Insertion of ETT (TISS Item)}} is marked on same day '''and''' 2) {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}} is marked in previous day.
*  the sequence is being intub yesterday and the next day extub then new insertion on same day.  
*  the sequence is being intub yesterday and the next day extub then new insertion on same day.  
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{{TISS w Nr | Planned extubation (TISS Item)}} or {{TISS w Nr | Unplanned extubation (TISS Item)}} can only be marked when both 1) {{TISS w Nr | Insertion of ETT (TISS Item)}} is marked on same day '''and''' 2) {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}} is not marked the next day.  
{{TISS w Nr | Planned extubation (TISS Item)}} or {{TISS w Nr | Unplanned extubation (TISS Item)}} can only be marked when both 1) {{TISS w Nr | Insertion of ETT (TISS Item)}} is marked on same day '''and''' 2) {{TISS w Nr | ETT Present (TISS Item)}} is not marked the next day.  
* the sequence is today new insertion then extub and tomorrow has no tube.  
* the sequence is today new insertion then extub and tomorrow has no tube.  
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| who = Julie
| todo_added = 2021-11-01
| todo_action = 2021-09-22
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* A patient might arrive intubated, so there would be no intubation. Does this check really make sense? Ttenbergen 23:23, 2019 March 25 (CDT)  
* A patient might arrive intubated, so there would be no intubation. Does this check really make sense? Ttenbergen 23:23, 2019 March 25 (CDT)  
** I have revised the conditions, pls check if they now make sense.--[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 16:38, 2019 July 9 (CDT)  
** I have revised the conditions, pls check if they now make sense.--[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 16:38, 2019 July 9 (CDT)  
*** Actually, no: Someone can arrive intubated from another ICU and then be extubated their first day here. I don't see how Insertion can be included in these two. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 20:13, 2020 December 2 (CST)
*** Actually, no: Someone can arrive intubated from another ICU and then be extubated their first day here. I don't see how Insertion can be included in these two. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 20:13, 2020 December 2 (CST)
**** Julie and Tina discussed this, but Julie wonders how common these false positives would be. Are they rare enough to add at least a soft cross-check for this? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 16:22, 2021 September 2 (CDT)
**** Julie and Tina discussed this, but Julie wonders how common these false positives would be. Are they rare enough to add at least a soft cross-check for this? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 16:22, 2021 September 2 (CDT)
***** Discussed between Julie, Allan and Tina; Julie to provide numbers of how often there is potentially inconsistent data, and how often that data is correct and how often false since the beginning of [[PatientFollow Project]]. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:51, 2021 September 22 (CDT)
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