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[[Patient List]] refers to list in [[CCMDB.mdb]]
[[Patient List]] refers to list in [[CCMDB.mdb]]




==Form==
==Form==
To see a copy of the Data Collection Log form go to:  
[[file:Change pot.svg|frame|100px|article added to [[:Category:Potential Change]] for prioritization in [[Change Priorities]]]]<noinclude>
*[[Media: MED Master Data Collection LOG.pdf | MED Master Data Collection Log form]]
To see a copy of the form go to:  
*[[Media: ICU Master Data Collection LOG.pdf | ICU Master Data Collection Log form]]
*[http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wikis/ccmdb/index.php/Image:MEDICINE_NEW_LOG_Master_PDA_Collection_Log_MED_NOV_07.xls '''Medicine''' PDA Collection Log Form]
*[http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wikis/ccmdb/index.php/Image:ICU_PDA_MASTER_COLLECTION_LOG_DEC_14.09.xls '''ICU''' PDA Collection Log Form]


* Staff are not supposed to use their own version of the Data Collection Logs nor should they be making photocopies of this form. It cost more to photocopy than to get a batch done in the printshop. We currently have a number of versions of the data collection log forms that staff are using. If you are one of those units that are using a version other than one shown in link above, please contact the [[Data Processor]] and she will order them from printshop. -Trish Ostryzniuk 14:59, 2012 October 24 (CDT)
*Links above are lost still pointing to ltc....Do I have to upload another copy then? - [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 17:52, 2012 October 18 (CDT)
{{Potential Change}}
** I had a look at the file listing on the wiki and the files don't seem to be there. However, there are others, did you already upload new ones?  
{{discussion}}
*** [[File:MED new 1 pt per Worksheet data collection Nov 2007.pdf]]
Trish, you have this labelled as a potential change. Are you hoping for any action from me? Ttenbergen 23:57, 2012 October 30 (EDT)
*** [[File:ICU Worksheet data collection REVISED May 2007.pdf]] (or maybe these are something totally different...) {{Potential Change}}


== Data Collector Use ==
== Data Collector Use ==
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** I don't think sending in the log is still required. Pagasa/Trish, can you confirm? -- [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 12:28, 2012 September 20 (CDT) {{discussion}}
** I don't think sending in the log is still required. Pagasa/Trish, can you confirm? -- [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 12:28, 2012 September 20 (CDT) {{discussion}}
*** Pagasa and Trish were looking at discussion about whether or not Pagasa needs to '''data collection registry/patient log''' that the girls use as worksheets to organize themselves.  Pagasa does not need the registry log if the collector will use the transfer tracker. We had not asked the collectors to stop faxing or mailing in their data collection registry logs to the main office when they have completed all their discharged patients for the previous month instead of piling them up in their office. We had kept them here and used the opportunity of having these worksheets to look up patients when the checking of linked data was showing wrong discharge or admit to and if dates overlap. Some collectors put alot of work keeping these worksheets up with exactly same information in latop data, other staff do not therefore, we can't rely on the registry log sheet worksheet for information.  This was only intended to be a worksheet to help collector organize themselves,  We don't enforced that this sheet be pristinely maintained for that reason.  We really don't need them if collectors use the transfer tracker to check when patient move to other sites or units.  Pagasa can use transfer tracker to check however, because we only keep 7 weeks, then this may not be helpful to her.  For quarterly reports, linking admissions occurs in the forth month after to previous quarter of year.  [[User:PTorres|PTorres]] 12:05, 2012 October 1 (CDT)
*** Pagasa and Trish were looking at discussion about whether or not Pagasa needs to '''data collection registry/patient log''' that the girls use as worksheets to organize themselves.  Pagasa does not need the registry log if the collector will use the transfer tracker. We had not asked the collectors to stop faxing or mailing in their data collection registry logs to the main office when they have completed all their discharged patients for the previous month instead of piling them up in their office. We had kept them here and used the opportunity of having these worksheets to look up patients when the checking of linked data was showing wrong discharge or admit to and if dates overlap. Some collectors put alot of work keeping these worksheets up with exactly same information in latop data, other staff do not therefore, we can't rely on the registry log sheet worksheet for information.  This was only intended to be a worksheet to help collector organize themselves,  We don't enforced that this sheet be pristinely maintained for that reason.  We really don't need them if collectors use the transfer tracker to check when patient move to other sites or units.  Pagasa can use transfer tracker to check however, because we only keep 7 weeks, then this may not be helpful to her.  For quarterly reports, linking admissions occurs in the forth month after to previous quarter of year.  [[User:PTorres|PTorres]] 12:05, 2012 October 1 (CDT)
*** we still require log sheets especially if someone is on holidays and someone comes to the vic to help out. we would not be able to tell what serial log number was used last especially when you do more than one unit on your laptop. also for example it happens your last 4 patients you entered were discharged sooner than the rest of your patients you would enter an erroneous number if you just based it on your laptop numbers.
 


* Since I have three wards on my lap top, I use the 'rec' column (on the patient list page) to sort my patient list by the ward they are on.  Therefore I need the 'rec' space. I do not use the room space often except when a patient is moved to another ward. Then I can quickly track a chart I'm looking for. (Judy)
* Since I have three wards on my lap top, I use the 'rec' column (on the patient list page) to sort my patient list by the ward they are on.  Therefore I need the 'rec' space. I do not use the room space often except when a patient is moved to another ward. Then I can quickly track a chart I'm looking for. (Judy)
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*I will revisit with Pagasa and review the need to FAX these logs.  Pagasa has been using logs as one method to try and reduce the number of emails or calls to collectors.  Collectors had voiced their concern about her following up entry errors in the past so many are putting alot of effort to document details on them.   
*I will revisit with Pagasa and review the need to FAX these logs.  Pagasa has been using logs as one method to try and reduce the number of emails or calls to collectors.  Collectors had voiced their concern about her following up entry errors in the past so many are putting alot of effort to document details on them.   
**It used occasionally as a reference by processor when collector make errors with units, dates etc.  It is another source of to cross check for Pagasa before she calls sites.  We really don't need the paper Registry log list.  These are worksheets for data collectors to help organize their work, some staff put alot of effort into them and fill in all fields and keep info up to date, alot staff do not so not a realiable source for Pagasa just an additional crosscheck source.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:42, 2012 October 11 (CDT)
** as asked above, any news on this? -- [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 12:29, 2012 September 20 (CDT) {{discussion}}
***It used occasionally as a reference by processor when collector make errors with units, dates etc.  It is another source of to cross check for Pagasa before she calls sites.  We really don't need the paper Registry log list.  These are worksheets for data collectors to help organize their work, some staff put alot of effort into them and fill in all fields and keep info up to date, alot staff do not so not a realiable source for Pagasa just an additional crosscheck source.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:42, 2012 October 11 (CDT)
 
==Tina?==
{{discussion}}
 
''see also [[Feedback Request - Patient List]]
Wherever multiple collectors share collection duties for a ward the log book is used to keep track of who collects which patients using what number
*Tina, see [[Ward admission log forms]] which is also referred to as "ward log book". -[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 17:42, 2012 October 18 (CDT)
 
* from [[Feedback Request - Patient List]] it sounds like this sheet "lives" on the ward at H4H; is that true for all wards?
**Tina, see [[Ward admission log forms]] for form the "lives" on the ward. --[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 17:42, 2012 October 18 (CDT)


==Main Office Use==
==Main Office Use==
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The PDA collection log (data collection log) was a useful form when we started data collection manually.  Recording the information on this form is actually duplicating what is being entered into the PDA or laptop.  We will be reviewing some alternate ideas that may lend themselves to the elimination of this form. Transcribing information onto paper then inputting into PDA or laptop adds to the workload of collection.  No changes at the moment but will keep you posted.-[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 19:03, 17 May 2010 (CDT)   
The PDA collection log (data collection log) was a useful form when we started data collection manually.  Recording the information on this form is actually duplicating what is being entered into the PDA or laptop.  We will be reviewing some alternate ideas that may lend themselves to the elimination of this form. Transcribing information onto paper then inputting into PDA or laptop adds to the workload of collection.  No changes at the moment but will keep you posted.-[[User:TOstryzniuk|TOstryzniuk]] 19:03, 17 May 2010 (CDT)   
*Time to think about this again? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:10, 2012 September 6 (CDT)  
*Time to think about this again? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:10, 2012 September 6 (CDT)  
**feedback from '''collection staff''' is that they need these paper forms in order to organize their work before inputting into laptop.  Too difficult to do direct input into laptop while on wards/units in a number of cases.
**feedback from collection staff is that they need these paper forms in order to organize their work before inputting into laptop.  Too difficult to do direct input into laptop while on wards/units in a number of cases.
*** are these officially optional now, then? Ttenbergen 16:44, 2012 October 19 (CDT)
***Pagasa refers to this form when needed, but really not often enough to justify this as being one of the significant reasons to keep this form. --[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:16, 2012 October 18 (CDT)[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:12, 2012 October 18 (CDT)
**'''Pagasa''' refers to this form when needed, but really not often enough to justify this as being one of the significant reasons to keep this form. --[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:16, 2012 October 18 (CDT)[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:12, 2012 October 18 (CDT)
*** does Pagasa have access to this information in any other places? If so it might be time to stop sending these in to her and have collectors confidential-waste them instead. Ttenbergen 16:44, 2012 October 19 (CDT)