Organic brain disorder, NOS: Difference between revisions

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== Additional Info ==

~~Includes [https://www~~.~~ncbi~~.~~nlm~~.~~nih~~.~~gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183991/#:~:text=Catatonia%20is%20a%20psychomotor%20syndrome,host%20of%20other%20clinical%20signs~~. ~~catatonia]~~

*This refers to states of cerebral dysfunction associated with a disturbance in any of consciousness (like catatonia), cognition, mood, affect, and behavior in the absence of drugs, infection, or a metabolic cause. These usually are due to fixed, anatomic abnormalities, though these do not always show up on brain imaging.

~~{{discuss |~~

**Thus, the "nonorganic" types are those due to drugs/substances, infection or metabolic causes, i.e. that they are (at least in principle) reversible.

* Are you sure it should be included under '''~~organic~~''' ~~disorder? The page you link~~, ~~and also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatonia wikipedia], make it sound like it could have all sorts of~~ causes~~. So, NOS likely, but organic? Reviewed~~ [[~~:Category:Psych]] and it didn't include any better NOS codes~~, ~~but maybe one in [[:Category:Neuro]]. If we had to add a code for this is would likely go under [[:Category:Symptom]] -~~ or ~~is it something that would then not be coded because [[Template:ICD10 Guideline Signs Symptoms Test Results not needed when cause known]]? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen~~]] ~~12:29, 2022 January 27 (CST)~~

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'''Includes'''

~~{{DA|~~

* Schizencephaly

~~Catatonia?~~

* cerebral dysfunction post meningits or menigoencephalitis

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* mesial temporal sclerosis

* catatonia, for non-organic causes use [[Somnolence, stupor or obtundation]]

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 == Additional Info ==
-Includes [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183991/#:~:text=Catatonia%20is%20a%20psychomotor%20syndrome,host%20of%20other%20clinical%20signs. catatonia]
+*This refers to states of cerebral dysfunction associated with a disturbance in any of consciousness (like catatonia), cognition, mood, affect, and behavior in the absence of drugs, infection, or a metabolic cause.  These usually are due to fixed, anatomic abnormalities, though these do not always show up on brain imaging.
-{{discuss |
+**Thus, the "nonorganic" types are those due to drugs/substances, infection or metabolic causes, i.e. that they are (at least in principle) reversible.
-* Are you sure it should be included under '''organic''' disorder? The page you link, and also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatonia wikipedia], make it sound like it could have all sorts of causes. So, NOS likely, but organic? Reviewed [[:Category:Psych]] and it didn't include any better NOS codes, but maybe one in [[:Category:Neuro]]. If we had to add a code for this is would likely go under [[:Category:Symptom]] - or is it something that would then not be coded because [[Template:ICD10 Guideline Signs Symptoms Test Results not needed when cause known]]? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 12:29, 2022 January 27 (CST)
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+'''Includes'''
-{{DA|
+* Schizencephaly
-Catatonia?
+* cerebral dysfunction post meningits or menigoencephalitis
-}}
+* mesial temporal sclerosis
+* catatonia, for non-organic causes use [[Somnolence, stupor or obtundation]]
 {{ICD10 Guideline Altered mental status}}