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Minutes from [[Team Meeting June 19, 2013]]. | Minutes from [[Team Meeting June 19, 2013]]. | ||
#The plan for September collection meeting is to have [[Dr. Allan Garland]] to present general plans to database structure changes program has been working on. Collectors are noting some small changes in their [[CCMDB. | #The plan for September collection meeting is to have [[p:Dr. Allan Garland]] to present general plans to database structure changes program has been working on. Collectors are noting some small changes in their [[CCMDB.accdb]] and they are not sure why they are being done. | ||
===[[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)]] Data Collection Criteria 2 issue=== | ===[[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)]] Data Collection Criteria 2 issue=== | ||
# [[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)]] | # [[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)]] | ||
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#***questions and examples to send to [[Dr. Anand Kumar]] | #***questions and examples to send to [[Dr. Anand Kumar]] | ||
#***Examples of cases to discuss and review | #***Examples of cases to discuss and review | ||
#***Take issues and discuss in the [[ | #***Take issues and discuss in the [[Task Team]] | ||
#*'''PLAN 1''': | #*'''PLAN 1''': | ||
#**Take topic to ICU database Task team. | #**Take topic to ICU database Task team. | ||
#**one '''SUGGESTION''': June 21.13; Trish has sent out an email to data collectors (including [[Dr. Allan Garland]] and Kendiss) to review and proposed we use the SAME wording for Criteria 2, make a 3rd criteria so wording is CLEARER for [[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)| CLR_BSI]] as the [[ | #**one '''SUGGESTION''': June 21.13; Trish has sent out an email to data collectors (including [[p:Dr. Allan Garland]] and Kendiss) to review and proposed we use the SAME wording for Criteria 2, make a 3rd criteria so wording is CLEARER for [[Central_Line_Related_Blood_stream_Infection_(CLR-BSI)| CLR_BSI]] as the [[Critical Care Vital Signs Monitoring]]. | ||
#***'''Criteria 2''' | #***'''Criteria 2''' | ||
#****One of: | #****One of: | ||
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#**Email sent to Dr. Kumar with some questions/examples. Question and reply below. | #**Email sent to Dr. Kumar with some questions/examples. Question and reply below. | ||
#**From: Trish Ostryzniuk, Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:48 AM, To: Anand Kumar, Subject: Previously colonized with ARO - bug question consult. | #**From: Trish Ostryzniuk, Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:48 AM, To: Anand Kumar, Subject: Previously colonized with ARO - bug question consult. | ||
#**Hi Dr. Kumar We need your help on this. Collectors are having trouble decided when previously colonized with ARO (Antibiotic Resistant Organism), when does it become an acute infection be in septicemia or pneumonia. | #**Hi Dr. Kumar We need your help on this. Collectors are having trouble decided when previously colonized with ARO ([[Antibiotic Resistant Organism]]), when does it become an acute infection be in septicemia or pneumonia. | ||
#***'''QUESTION:''' Pt who is colonized with VRE or MRSA or both, and has a -ve blood cultures and sputum: if they go on to develop septicemia (+ ve blood cultures) with VRE or MRSA or both and, it appears to be an acute infection (pt starts decompensating), question is this: would VRE or MSRA be the causative agent for this infection? | #***'''QUESTION:''' Pt who is colonized with VRE or MRSA or both, and has a -ve blood cultures and sputum: if they go on to develop septicemia (+ ve blood cultures) with VRE or MRSA or both and, it appears to be an acute infection (pt starts decompensating), question is this: would VRE or MSRA be the causative agent for this infection? | ||
#***'''Example 1:''' pt is colonized with VRE & MRSA, develops SOB, has to be intubated and the ETT secretions grow MRSA and entercocus spec. Is this an pneumonia mixed with MRSA? | #***'''Example 1:''' pt is colonized with VRE & MRSA, develops SOB, has to be intubated and the ETT secretions grow MRSA and entercocus spec. Is this an pneumonia mixed with MRSA? | ||
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===TISS28 items 46-49 - 2300 hrs items=== | ===TISS28 items 46-49 - 2300 hrs items=== | ||
#[[:Category: TISS28 | TISS28]] is not only used to monitor bedside nurse workload trends, by administration and management, it is also used by [[ | #[[:Category: TISS28 | TISS28]] is not only used to monitor bedside nurse workload trends, by administration and management, it is also used by [[Critical Care Vital Signs Monitoring]] and ICU Quality Improvement team for research and monitoring for quality of patient care. | ||
#every 3-4 month the data collectors are asked to provide a summary of observed issues with completion of TISS forms. This information feed back to ICU Nursing Director [[Jodi Walker Tweed]], review with the QI officer [[Basil Evan]], ICU managers in the region. Manager then review with their staff and QI Officer review with Nursing Educators. | #every 3-4 month the data collectors are asked to provide a summary of observed issues with completion of TISS forms. This information feed back to ICU Nursing Director [[p:Jodi Walker Tweed]], review with the QI officer [[p:Basil Evan]], ICU managers in the region. Manager then review with their staff and QI Officer review with Nursing Educators. | ||
#[[Julie Mojica]] presented a brief '''Comparative Analysis of TISS28 items 46-49 vs CRN Data collection''' | #[[p:Julie Mojica]] presented a brief '''Comparative Analysis of TISS28 items 46-49 vs CRN Data collection''' | ||
#*Period: Jan-Mar 31.13 (90 days) | #*Period: Jan-Mar 31.13 (90 days) | ||
#*CRN use to count daily number of central lines, ventilated patients and ETT's since 2007 and fax them to main database office. As of Jan 1.13 this information was included on the TISS28 for (items 46-49). Also items 28 & 29. | #*CRN use to count daily number of central lines, ventilated patients and ETT's since 2007 and fax them to main database office. As of Jan 1.13 this information was included on the TISS28 for (items 46-49). Also items 28 & 29. | ||
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#*data collector at a site will be notificed not to edit or add to TISS28 for items 46-49 for a specific date by Trish. | #*data collector at a site will be notificed not to edit or add to TISS28 for items 46-49 for a specific date by Trish. | ||
#Quality control of TISS data provided by bedside nurses continues to be a significant burden of workload on the data collector at each site. The degree and amount of edits, additions, correction etc., varies from site to site. Some collectors do a high degree of quality control on each TISS, others do minimal corrections. The degree of quality control required has not been specified therefore, not consistent, and is dependant on the collector who does it. | #Quality control of TISS data provided by bedside nurses continues to be a significant burden of workload on the data collector at each site. The degree and amount of edits, additions, correction etc., varies from site to site. Some collectors do a high degree of quality control on each TISS, others do minimal corrections. The degree of quality control required has not been specified therefore, not consistent, and is dependant on the collector who does it. | ||
#RE: Long stay patient and turning in TISS form after second page is started: | #RE: Long stay patient and turning in TISS form after second page is started: [[Critical Care Vital Signs Monitoring]] and ICU QI team is wanting data sooner rather than later, particularily related to certain items on TISS. There has been a request that collector not hold on to all the TISS forms until patient is discharged from unit if LOS is 10 days or more. For some units this has been challenging that they are not able to do weekly QA check of TISS before submitting. IF the ICU starts to accept TISS AS IS with missing days and incomplete data we would need a way on form and in TISS database tag this. | ||
#*'''Plan''' | #*'''Plan''' | ||
#*discuss at ICU database Task meeting what should be the minimal standards of quality control on TISS forms? | #*discuss at ICU database Task meeting what should be the minimal standards of quality control on TISS forms? | ||
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#**the independant TISS audit started in June 2013, to be reported and reviewed by Steering Commitee when it is completed. | #**the independant TISS audit started in June 2013, to be reported and reviewed by Steering Commitee when it is completed. | ||
=== | === Overstay Project Bed day reduction in medicine program === | ||
#Presented by [[Linda Hathout]] | #Presented by [[Linda Hathout]] | ||
#approximate decrease in mean LOS of 2.1 days | #approximate decrease in mean LOS of 2.1 days | ||
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#**ownership of problem and increase accountablity (transition coordinator) | #**ownership of problem and increase accountablity (transition coordinator) | ||
#**excellent support from data collector at each site! | #**excellent support from data collector at each site! | ||
#**reduction of | #**reduction of [[paneling]] from hospitals and increase [[paneling]] from Home. Better for patient to be panelled from home | ||
#**increase supports as needed to enable patient to return to home | #**increase supports as needed to enable patient to return to home | ||
#**reduction in number of unnecessary consults for home care and increase in number of appropriate consults | #**reduction in number of unnecessary consults for home care and increase in number of appropriate consults | ||
#'''ISSUE''': Collectors state that the ADMIT from items if often MISSED on [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | Discharge Planning Screening Tool (DPST)]] for and that it should be a question with a number 7 by it, otherwise often missed and collect has to chase. Bedside nurse have request this change at HSC as per [[Pat Stein]]. | #'''ISSUE''': Collectors state that the ADMIT from items if often MISSED on [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | Discharge Planning Screening Tool (DPST)]] for and that it should be a question with a number 7 by it, otherwise often missed and collect has to chase. Bedside nurse have request this change at HSC as per [[p:Pat Stein]]. | ||
#*[[Linda Hathout]] stated that the final [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]]form to be work on over the summer months of 2013. Clearer worded is needed. | #*[[Linda Hathout]] stated that the final [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]]form to be work on over the summer months of 2013. Clearer worded is needed. | ||
#[[Statistician]] [[Julie Mojica]] is able to capture READMIT when linking databases if patient is from a unit we are collecting on. This is in regards to some comment about capturing the number of FAILED DISCHARGES (sorry, don't recall all of discussion on this point). | #[[Statistician]] [[p:Julie Mojica]] is able to capture READMIT when linking databases if patient is from a unit we are collecting on. This is in regards to some comment about capturing the number of FAILED DISCHARGES (sorry, don't recall all of discussion on this point). | ||
#[[Debbie Page-Newton]] Requested to have the stats for the number of bed days/beds saved as a result of the [[:Category:OverstayProject | OverstayProject]]. It would also be beneficial if someone could figure out what that translates to in terms of actual dollars and cents saved. I think that generally people can relate to, and are more impressed by the amount of money saved. | #[[p:Debbie Page-Newton]] Requested to have the stats for the number of bed days/beds saved as a result of the [[:Category:OverstayProject | OverstayProject]]. It would also be beneficial if someone could figure out what that translates to in terms of actual dollars and cents saved. I think that generally people can relate to, and are more impressed by the amount of money saved. | ||
===[[Palliative | === [[Palliative care]] === | ||
#as per [[Linda Hathout]] & [[Dr. Dan Roberts]] the [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]], should done for palliative care patients, and a color should be generated. | #as per [[Linda Hathout]] & [[p:Dr. Dan Roberts]] the [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]], should done for palliative care patients, and a color should be generated. (not sure what the final color was decided if GREEN or YELLOW? It was Green by [[p:Dr. Dan Roberts]] first email. | ||
#*I could be wrong; my understanding is the color could be either green or yellow and coded according to the color generated by the algorithm.--[[User: Ppiche | Pamela Piche]] | #*I could be wrong; my understanding is the color could be either green or yellow and coded according to the color generated by the algorithm.--[[User: Ppiche | Pamela Piche]] | ||
#*[[Dr. Dan Roberts]]: what ever we do we have to be consistent. Can't make tool too sensitive. Even with misclassifications, we pick up sufficient number of REDS to make a difference. | #*[[p:Dr. Dan Roberts]]: what ever we do we have to be consistent. Can't make tool too sensitive. Even with misclassifications, we pick up sufficient number of REDS to make a difference. | ||
#**'''EXCEPTION: Palliative care and DC TX: if demise is imminent and anticipated within 24-36 hrs of unit admission then DO NOT complete''' the [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]]. | #**'''EXCEPTION: Palliative care and DC TX: if demise is imminent and anticipated within 24-36 hrs of unit admission then DO NOT complete''' the [[Media:Discharge Planning Screening Tool.pdf | DPST]]. | ||
#***one cannot estimate or make a judgement that a patient will for certain, die within 24-36 hrs, therefore fill out form as best you can if not certain. If died and form was filled out, patient will be excluded from analysis and any work associated with discharge planning; well, there won't be any. | #***one cannot estimate or make a judgement that a patient will for certain, die within 24-36 hrs, therefore fill out form as best you can if not certain. If died and form was filled out, patient will be excluded from analysis and any work associated with discharge planning; well, there won't be any. | ||
#*PROPOSED: Add a '''subcode''' to code 90400 [[Palliative | #*PROPOSED: Add a '''subcode''' to code 90400 [[Palliative care]] | ||
#**90401 Palliative Care - demise imminent within 24-36 hrs | #**90401 Palliative Care - demise imminent within 24-36 hrs | ||
#*Collector must make sure that any patient admitted as Palliative or becomes Palliative after being admitted to your unit, you must include this code in your DX slots in [[CCMDB. | #*Collector must make sure that any patient admitted as Palliative or becomes Palliative after being admitted to your unit, you must include this code in your DX slots in [[CCMDB.accdb]] where appropriate. | ||
===Sending and copying DPST forms=== | ===Sending and copying DPST forms=== | ||
#stop sending a copy of DPST to Linda for: GRA, VIC and STB. To be kept on chart, though not legal document approved by MR so not sure which sites will file in MR chart. | #stop sending a copy of DPST to Linda for: GRA, VIC and STB. To be kept on chart, though not legal document approved by MR so not sure which sites will file in MR chart. | ||
===ADL HSC_H4 - data collection challenges=== | ===ADL HSC_H4 - data collection challenges=== | ||
#[[Pat Stein]] - '''HSC_H4 issues''' with doing [[ADL]]. Information if kept on chart at each patient room. Other medicine wards at HSC do not do this. Collector must go to each and every room to get information. Often it is not done, nor is it clear or accurate. Collector must hunt around and guess most of the time. Question was asked of Medicine program in past (at Steering Meeting) as to why medicine does not adopt a standard ADL assessment form if this is an important assessment that must be made at admission? Challenging for collectors at a number of sites because documentation can be all over the place. The data collectors at HSC-H4, as well at other sites, will look into room to assess ADL if nothing on chart. | #[[p:Pat Stein]] - '''HSC_H4 issues''' with doing [[ADL]]. Information if kept on chart at each patient room. Other medicine wards at HSC do not do this. Collector must go to each and every room to get information. Often it is not done, nor is it clear or accurate. Collector must hunt around and guess most of the time. Question was asked of Medicine program in past (at Steering Meeting) as to why medicine does not adopt a standard ADL assessment form if this is an important assessment that must be made at admission? Challenging for collectors at a number of sites because documentation can be all over the place. The data collectors at HSC-H4, as well at other sites, will look into room to assess ADL if nothing on chart. | ||
===HSC office Desktop computer=== | ===HSC office Desktop computer=== | ||
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