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Article in progress......working on it.  Collectors need your input to items list below.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 14:55, 2017 January 11 (CST)
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This is a ''temporary project'' to track source collectors use for [[Accept DtTm]] to help us assess quality and consistency of this data.  
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Tracking of the source collectors use for ''Accept DtTm'' to help us assess quality and consistency of this data.  


==Collection instructions==
==Collection instructions==
For each patient admitted from the ER, enter one or more lines for this project.  
For each patient admitted from the ER, enter one or more lines for this project.  


Enter '''one line for each document''' you came across that you could have used as source for the [[Accept Date/Time]], enter the source/document:  
Enter '''one line for each document''' you came across that you could have used as source for the ''Accept DtTm'', enter the source/document:  
* TMP tab on laptop in [[CCMDB.mdb]]
* TMP tab on laptop in [[CCMDB.accdb]]
* Project: AcceptDateSource
* '''Project''': AcceptDateSource
* Item: select the document
* '''Item''': select the document from [[#Options for "Item"]]
* boolean/checkbox: check if this is the document you used for the [[Accept Date/Time]]
* '''checkbox/column B''': check if this is the document you used for the ''Accept DtTm''
* Date: enter the date if different from the one you used.  
* '''Date/column E''': enter the date if different from the one you used.  
*for each item above selected need to include:
* '''Time/column M''': enter the time if different from the one you used.
**column E - date
** If '''time is not documented''' leave it blank and enter "no time documentation" into the comment field.
**column M - time  
** If '''multiple times''' are documented in a given Item (say Dr Order), enter the earliest time and no need to enter the other times of the same Item.  [[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 10:29, 2017 January 31 (CST)
**column B - check box - mark which source you used in Dispo tab for AcceptDtTm.
* '''coment/column Q'''': comment if item is "Guess" or "Other"
**Column Q - COMMENT - if guess or other
 
=== Direct Admissions / Transfers who stop in ER ===
*See: ''Accept_DtTm_field#Direct_Admissions.2FTransfers''
*For direct admits but stop in ER and Accept_DtTm recorded, choose the option 'Other' and write in the Comment 'Triage sheet-direct'.


=== Options for "Item" ===
=== Options for "Item" ===
{{Discussion}}
Use one of the following for the "Item":  
before we start, I need help for the drop down list for items in regards what the sources might be.  This is tentative list subject to staff input.  I have started the list below:
{| class="wikitable sortable"
# ER form-Request for Admit to inpatient unit
|-
# Inpatient summary sheet (pink sheet)  - {{Discussion}} - is this only at VIC?  I think HSC has pink sheet too.
!| item
**HSC's pink sheet is only seen rarely. Usually I've only seen it for patients who came in for a same day procedure and then ended up needing to be admitted to medicine. We use the white sheet where the physician requests a bed for the patient. This time is usually the same time as the doctors orders.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 13:10, 2017 January 18 (CST)
!| description
# Doctors order
!| sort order
# Standard ICU order sheet
|-
# ICU admission notes
|| ER form-Request for Admit to inpatient unit ||  || 1
# ICU consult
|-
# HX & Physic note
|| Inpatient Summary Sheet || whatever colour, white at HSC or pink at Conc, Gra || 2
# EPR - {{Discussion}} - where in EPR, what is the field name?
|-
# ER Dr note-ICU accepted the patient
|| Dr. order || written order that our service physician order accepting the patient || 3
# Guess - no documentation
|-
# other  
|| Standard Order Sheet || ICU or Medicine || 4
|-
|| Admission Notes || ICU or Medicine || 5
|-
|| Consult Form || only consult to ICU or Medicine Services || 6
|-
|| HX & Physic note || || 7
|-
|| ER Dr note || note that ICU/med service accepted the patient || 8
|-
|| EPR - see wiki for field to use || see [[#location of accept dttm in EPR]] || 9
|-
|| Inpatient Demographic Sheet ||  || 9.5
|-
|| Guess - no documentation || || 10
|-
|| Other || enter in comment what it is || 11
|}
 
=== standard vs drs orders ===
* ... However any standard order sheet should really be considered a "Dr's order" unless we are trying to establish a consistent source across all facilities where we can determine accept time, with the exception of SBGH of course.
** good point. We are trying to find out how things are documented though, so for now let's treat them differently, but thanks for letting us know that we can combine them. (discussed w Tina and Julie) [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 14:02, 2017 February 7 (CST)
 
=== ICU vs Medicine ===
* We are also putting consults for screening medicine under other as the current dropdown allows only for ICU consult, could that be changed to say consult? [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 11:11, 2017 February 7 (CST)
** We have changed anything that was specific to ICU so it could be medicine as well. Thanks, good point! [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 14:02, 2017 February 7 (CST)


== Preliminary documentation info ==
== Preliminary documentation info ==
As we are trying to find out what to collect, we found the following.  
As we are trying to find out what to collect, we found the following.  
*I can't think of anything you have missed for HSC.--[[User:Jpeterson|Jpeterson]] 08:36, 2017 January 18 (CST)
 
=== "ER Department - Request for Admission to Inpatient Unit" form ===
=== "ER Department - Request for Admission to Inpatient Unit" form ===
At HSC, Director of Medical Records states that there should be a white form on chart - ''ER Department - Request for Admission to Inpatient Unit''. (Trish asked them to fax her copy).  
At HSC, Director of Medical Records states that there should be a white form on chart - ''ER Department - Request for Admission to Inpatient Unit''. (Trish asked them to fax her copy).  
Hospitals using this:  
Hospitals using this:  
* HSC
* HSC
* Vic
* VIC
* Conc has this form but is not a permanent part of the chart,it is tossed in confidential waste.
* CON - has this form but is not a permanent part of the chart,it is tossed in confidential waste.
* SOGH
* Grace-the request for admission form filled out in the ER is a part of the permanent chart. The time on this form is taken from the orders when the "Admit to Medicine" order is written, so the time is ideally the same on both forms, however some differences in time have been noted.  This is also the same time entered on the Pink Admission Summary form.
 
=== HSC Pink Sheets ===
HSC's pink sheet is only seen rarely. Usually I've only seen it for patients who came in for a same day procedure and then ended up needing to be admitted to medicine. We use the white sheet where the physician requests a bed for the patient. This time is usually the same time as the doctors orders.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 13:10, 2017 January 18 (CST)


=== VIC consult sheet ===
=== location of accept dttm in EPR ===
* the consult sheet in ER/viewed in EPR  filled out by the Bed Doc (VIC) will indicate whether he will admit to Medicine(teaching vs Nonteaching) however we dont use that time only the Pink Inpt summary Sheet time.
It was identified that STB always uses the same source for AcceptDate: from the Dr orders. Still, for completeness of data please enter the source.  
** {{discussion}} Shirley, are you saying we need to add this to the drop down? You say you don't use it, so I guess not. If you don't use this sheet are you just trying to make sure we know how [[Accept DtTm]] is collected at the Vic? If so, the info should more likely be in [[VIC ICU Collection Guide]] and/or [[VIC Medicine Collection Guide]]. Ttenbergen 11:27, 2017 January 17 (CST)
* at GGH, the accept time can be taken from the Admission Register from EPR Report Lists; this time=time on Request for admission generated in ER=admit time on pink sheet=time order written "admit to"


==Dates==
==Dates==
===Start Date===
===Start Date===
Target: 2017-Feb-1
Target: 2017-02-1


===End Date===
===End Date===
2017-Mar-31
admission date up to: 2017-03-31 2359
*any admissions after this date and time, no acceptdatesource to be entered.
 
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== Background ==
== Background ==
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[[Category: L_TmpV2 Data]]
[[Category: QA]]
[[Category: QA]]
[[Category: All Projects ICU only]]
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Program: CC and Med
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Tracking of the source collectors use for Accept DtTm to help us assess quality and consistency of this data.

Collection instructions

For each patient admitted from the ER, enter one or more lines for this project.

Enter one line for each document you came across that you could have used as source for the Accept DtTm, enter the source/document:

  • TMP tab on laptop in CCMDB.accdb
  • Project: AcceptDateSource
  • Item: select the document from #Options for "Item"
  • checkbox/column B: check if this is the document you used for the Accept DtTm
  • Date/column E: enter the date if different from the one you used.
  • Time/column M: enter the time if different from the one you used.
    • If time is not documented leave it blank and enter "no time documentation" into the comment field.
    • If multiple times are documented in a given Item (say Dr Order), enter the earliest time and no need to enter the other times of the same Item. JMojica 10:29, 2017 January 31 (CST)
  • coment/column Q': comment if item is "Guess" or "Other"

Direct Admissions / Transfers who stop in ER

  • See: Accept_DtTm_field#Direct_Admissions.2FTransfers
  • For direct admits but stop in ER and Accept_DtTm recorded, choose the option 'Other' and write in the Comment 'Triage sheet-direct'.

Options for "Item"

Use one of the following for the "Item": {

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