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{{DA | The following came straight from the old [[Tachyarrythmias]] article. Do they still make sense in the case of fibrillation? Isn't that much more severe? Ttenbergen 22:41, 2017 November 11 (CST)
{{DA | treated vs not treated - the sequel }}
The following came straight from the old [[Tachyarrythmias]] article. Do they still make sense in the case of fibrillation? Isn't that much more severe? Ttenbergen 22:41, 2017 November 11 (CST)
*AG -- I thought I already answered this.  ICD10 codes are diagnoses.  Not every diagnosis is TREATED.  Thus any prior requirement that to code an arrythmia it needs to be treated is NOT going to go forward in ICD10.  This isn't about ICD10 per se, but rather about the fact that it never made sense to insist that we'd only code a thing if it was treated.  While rare there are some good reasons not to treat tachyarrythmias, not the least of which is palliative status.  THUS TINA -- for any/all arrythmias that say the things below, please remove them.
*AG -- I thought I already answered this.  ICD10 codes are diagnoses.  Not every diagnosis is TREATED.  Thus any prior requirement that to code an arrythmia it needs to be treated is NOT going to go forward in ICD10.  This isn't about ICD10 per se, but rather about the fact that it never made sense to insist that we'd only code a thing if it was treated.  While rare there are some good reasons not to treat tachyarrythmias, not the least of which is palliative status.  THUS TINA -- for any/all arrythmias that say the things below, please remove them.
**TT -- this may be a bigger issue than just arrythmias... did [https://ccmdb.kuality.ca/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=treated&go=Go a search of the wiki for "treated"] and we have other dxs that also list a treatment requirement. Is this a broader problem? Ttenbergen 08:42, 2019 January 24 (CST)
**TT -- this may be a bigger issue than just arrythmias... did [https://ccmdb.kuality.ca/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=treated&go=Go a search of the wiki for "treated"] and we have other dxs that also list a treatment requirement. Is this a broader problem? Ttenbergen 08:42, 2019 January 24 (CST)

Revision as of 22:36, 27 January 2019

ICD10 Diagnosis
Dx: Ventricular fibrillation
ICD10 code: I49.0
Pre-ICD10 counterpart: Tachyarrythmias
Charlson/ALERT Scale: none
APACHE Como Component: none
APACHE Acute Component: 2019-0: Rhythm Disturbance
Start Date:
Stop Date:
Data Dependencies(Reports/Indicators/Data Elements): No results
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This diagnosis is a part of ICD10 collection.

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    • 2019-01-01
    • 2999-12-31
    • I49.0
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treated vs not treated - the sequel

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The following came straight from the old Tachyarrythmias article. Do they still make sense in the case of fibrillation? Isn't that much more severe? Ttenbergen 22:41, 2017 November 11 (CST)

  • AG -- I thought I already answered this. ICD10 codes are diagnoses. Not every diagnosis is TREATED. Thus any prior requirement that to code an arrythmia it needs to be treated is NOT going to go forward in ICD10. This isn't about ICD10 per se, but rather about the fact that it never made sense to insist that we'd only code a thing if it was treated. While rare there are some good reasons not to treat tachyarrythmias, not the least of which is palliative status. THUS TINA -- for any/all arrythmias that say the things below, please remove them.
    • TT -- this may be a bigger issue than just arrythmias... did a search of the wiki for "treated" and we have other dxs that also list a treatment requirement. Is this a broader problem? Ttenbergen 08:42, 2019 January 24 (CST)

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For ICU

  • Receiving Tx with at least one of
    • defibrillation/cardioversion
    • continuous antiarrythmics infusion
  • bolus Tx does not qualify in Critical Care

For Medicine

(changed 1 Jun 09)

  • new onset with:
    • EKG/Rhythm strip showing tachyarrythmia
    • and receiving drug or electronic treatment for the new onset

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