Patient copier button: Difference between revisions

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* put previous location into admit from? Again, could make this optional...

* comorbids?

* for medicine: tasks? seems like they would not usually change...

* for medicine: tasks? seems like they would not usually change...{{discussion}}

**This may not be the case. For example a patient is admitted to Hobs with severe sepsis and unable to perform any of his ADL and has a foley in situ. His ADL would be all major assist.He is then transferred to A4 two weeks later and only requires a minimal assist with his bath, is able to be up and about on the ward independently and his foley had been removed in Hobs. On admission to A4 his ADL in completely different plus he requires far less nursing time for his care.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 12:52, 2015 September 30 (CDT)

*** there would be exceptions like that for many fields. do you think that more often than not ADLs stay same? Or, is the probability such that copying them would be likely to increase errors more than it would ease collection? Ttenbergen 16:50, 2015 October 2 (CDT)

=== Overstay ===

* Overstay color (if generated) for medicine

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***** Technically no problem to copy this, but I need to understand how we use it. Is it part of the Overstay instructions to put the colour from a previous ward into notes? I am trying to understand where this comes from. I don't think we use it at the office. So, is this something used by collectors somehow? Ttenbergen 14:56, 2015 June 25 (CDT)

******Re: "Transferred" Overstay colors ie. when patients transfer from VIC N5/S5/S4 to S3 patients are "discharged" on laptops, profiles completed and a new patient profile with a new serial numbber is created on S5/N5/S3 laptop. The Overstay color remains the same in these scenarios and "transfers" with the patient. Practice at the VIC is to manually enter the transferred Overstay color onto the notes field for ease of reference as this is how Overstay color is displayed on profiles with intially completed DPST forms. As well, on the temp page "transferred form" is entered once, the rest of the DPST questions deleted and the Overstay color manually entered in the corresponding Q column for the "transformed form" row. Data collection process may differ at other facilities and of course readmission from the community would require completion of a new DPST form. Therefore it may not be practical or feasible to include copied overstay colors which is fine. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 08:13, 2015 September 29 (CDT)

******* Pam, I have some understanding that we do in fact store these colours even on the new ward, but what I don't understand is ''why''. On the new ward collectors should no longer have anything to do with overstay, right? So why store this? Ttenbergen 16:50, 2015 October 2 (CDT)

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 * put previous location into admit from? Again, could make this optional...
 * comorbids?
-* for medicine: tasks? seems like they would not usually change...
+* for medicine: tasks? seems like they would not usually change...{{discussion}}
 **This may not be the case. For example a patient is admitted to Hobs with severe sepsis and unable to perform any of his ADL and has a foley in situ. His ADL would be all major assist.He is then transferred to A4 two weeks later and only requires a minimal assist with his bath, is able to be up and about on the ward independently and his foley had been removed in Hobs. On admission to A4 his ADL in completely different plus he requires far less nursing time for his care.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 12:52, 2015 September 30 (CDT)
+*** there would be exceptions like that for many fields. do you think that more often than not ADLs stay same? Or, is the probability such that copying them would be likely to increase errors more than it would ease collection? Ttenbergen 16:50, 2015 October 2 (CDT)
 === Overstay ===
 * Overstay color (if generated) for medicine
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 ***** Technically no problem to copy this, but I need to understand how we use it. Is it part of the Overstay instructions to put the colour from a previous ward into notes? I am trying to understand where this comes from. I don't think we use it at the office. So, is this something used by collectors somehow? Ttenbergen 14:56, 2015 June 25 (CDT)
 ******Re: "Transferred" Overstay colors ie. when patients transfer from VIC N5/S5/S4 to S3 patients are "discharged" on laptops, profiles completed and a new patient profile with a new serial numbber is created on S5/N5/S3 laptop. The Overstay color remains the same in these scenarios and "transfers" with the patient. Practice at the VIC is to manually enter the transferred Overstay color onto the notes field for ease of reference as this is how Overstay color is displayed on profiles with intially completed DPST forms. As well, on the temp page "transferred form" is entered once, the rest of the DPST questions deleted and the Overstay color manually entered in the corresponding Q column for the "transformed form" row. Data collection process may differ at other facilities and of course readmission from the community would require completion of a new DPST form. Therefore it may not be practical or feasible to include copied overstay colors which is fine. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 08:13, 2015 September 29 (CDT)
+******* Pam, I have some understanding that we do in fact store these colours even on the new ward, but what I don't understand is ''why''. On the new ward collectors should no longer have anything to do with overstay, right? So why store this? Ttenbergen 16:50, 2015 October 2 (CDT)