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*''' Creatinine >250 mmol or a Rise >100 mmol from baseline over 24 hours'''
*''' Creatinine >250 mmol or a Rise >100 mmol from baseline over 24 hours'''
* a patient is '''not''' on chronic hemodialysis or peritoneal dialysis
* a patient is '''not''' on chronic hemodialysis or peritoneal dialysis
{{Discussion}}
* I don't think that just having a creatinine of >250 should automatically mean ARI.  This could be the patient's baseline and therefore is a chronic issue.  My opinion is to only use the rule of >100 mmol over baseline over 24 hours for '''acute''' renal insufficiency (without dialysis), or use ATN  if this is documented.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:13, 2014 October 8 (CDT)
* I don't think that just having a creatinine of >250 should automatically mean ARI.  This could be the patient's baseline and therefore is a chronic issue.  My opinion is to only use the rule of >100 mmol over baseline over 24 hours for '''acute''' renal insufficiency (without dialysis), or use ATN  if this is documented.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:13, 2014 October 8 (CDT)
** Are we to change what we have being doing for over 10 years ?--[[User:PStein|PStein]] 09:54, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
** Are we to change what we have being doing for over 10 years ?--[[User:PStein|PStein]] 09:54, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
** I am just putting my opinion here, if any changes are done they will have to go through the task group first.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:28, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
*** I am just putting my opinion here, if any changes are done they will have to go through the task group first.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:28, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
 
== {{Data Integrity Checks}} ==
== {{Data Integrity Checks}} ==
There are a number of coding rules related to renal diagnoses, centralized info about them is in [[Renal Coding Considerations]].  
There are a number of coding rules related to renal diagnoses, centralized info about them is in [[Renal Coding Considerations]].  
** I always check what the pts baseline creatinine was prior to admission if the pt had chronic renal insuffiency  and creatinine was 250 last admission I will code as mod CRI if the present creatinine was say 350 I will code acute RI in admits and CRI in comorbids ( acute on chronic )If the creat was the same as last admission  say 250 and pt has CRI I only code in comorbids because it is not acute.
*I always check what the pts baseline creatinine was prior to admission if the pt had chronic renal insuffiency  and creatinine was 250 last admission I will code as mod CRI if the present creatinine was say 350 I will code acute RI in admits and CRI in comorbids ( acute on chronic )If the creat was the same as last admission  say 250 and pt has CRI I only code in comorbids because it is not acute.
**This is what I do also.  This makes sense to me, not arbitrarily putting a value of >250 as acute renal insufficiency.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 17:29, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
**This is what I do also.  This makes sense to me, not arbitrarily putting a value of >250 as acute renal insufficiency.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 17:29, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
[[Category: Diagnosis Coding]]
[[Category: Diagnosis Coding]]
[[Category: Charlson - Renal]]
[[Category: Charlson - Renal]]

Revision as of 17:04, 2014 October 15

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Category/Organ
System:
Category: Renal (old)

Type:

Category: Medical Problem (old)

Main Diagnosis: Acute Renal Insufficiency
Sub Diagnosis:
Diagnosis Code: 36400 - ARI-Acute Renal Insufficiency
Comorbid Diagnosis: No
Charlson Comorbid coding (pre ICD10): 0 - 2
Program: Critical Care and Medicine
Status: Currently Collected


Acute Renal Iinsufficiency

Guideline

  • Creatinine >250 mmol or a Rise >100 mmol from baseline over 24 hours
  • a patient is not on chronic hemodialysis or peritoneal dialysis

Template:Discussion

  • I don't think that just having a creatinine of >250 should automatically mean ARI. This could be the patient's baseline and therefore is a chronic issue. My opinion is to only use the rule of >100 mmol over baseline over 24 hours for acute renal insufficiency (without dialysis), or use ATN if this is documented. --LKolesar 07:13, 2014 October 8 (CDT)
    • Are we to change what we have being doing for over 10 years ?--PStein 09:54, 2014 October 15 (CDT)
      • I am just putting my opinion here, if any changes are done they will have to go through the task group first.--LKolesar 11:28, 2014 October 15 (CDT)

Template:Data Integrity Checks

There are a number of coding rules related to renal diagnoses, centralized info about them is in Renal Coding Considerations.

  • I always check what the pts baseline creatinine was prior to admission if the pt had chronic renal insuffiency and creatinine was 250 last admission I will code as mod CRI if the present creatinine was say 350 I will code acute RI in admits and CRI in comorbids ( acute on chronic )If the creat was the same as last admission say 250 and pt has CRI I only code in comorbids because it is not acute.
    • This is what I do also. This makes sense to me, not arbitrarily putting a value of >250 as acute renal insufficiency.--LKolesar 17:29, 2014 October 15 (CDT)