Category:Arrest (old)

• A cardiac arrest patient must be successfully resuscitated to be considered as admitted to the unit, meaning a period of time, say 30 minutes, without requiring CPR.

Therefore patient's who are admitted DOA (dead on arrival) or those in unit less than 30 minutes who pass away, should not be included in database.

As per Dr. Dan Roberts

Medical Director, Medicine Program, WRHA

September 16, 2008

Template:Discussion

• The comment about not including patients in the database if they die within 30 minutes of arrival to the ICU is new. I think this significant change should be discussed in the task/review group before implementation. Just a suggestion. --LKolesar 09:42, 25 March 2009 (CDT)

• • I agree with Laura. Even if the pt dies within the 30 minute time frame, the staff will have a lot of work to do for that pt in that time as well as dealing with family and postmortem care. This is a lot of work to exclude, and I am not sure the staff will understand why these pts are being excluded. We have worked hard to get them to think to include these people in the log, and to now tell them the opposite will not go over well. BDeVlaming 10:46, 25 March 2009 (CDT

NOTE

• RE: Cardiac arrest question on wiki and from meeting June 12.08.TOstryzniuk 16:30, 25 June 2008 (CDT)

To maintain consistency and keep the collection practice the same as how we have always done it (whether it is correct or not, at least it is consistent):

• Example:

Cardiac arrest & MI, and CHF at home or in ER. Admitted from ER to ICU then transferred from ICU to Med Ward. DX coding:

• ICU Admit DX:

1. cardiac arrest
2. type of rhythm (if charted)
3. MI 4. CHF

• Med Ward Admit DX:

1. MI
2. CHF

NOTE:

• Primary reason to ICU was cardiac arrest. Issue resolved in ICU so arrest should not be coded as primary reason to ward when patient transferred to the ward.

• If patient is admitted directly from the ward from ER with the above admitting DX then cardiac arrest is the primary reason for admission to medicine ward from the ER.

::SEE BRR for information about the cooling protocol applied to witnessed cardiac arrests