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==Data encoding==
==Data encoding==
This is one field on the PDA and in [[CCMDB.mdb]]. It is two fields (survive/expire) and (autopsy) in Ed's database. It was implemented as a single field to prevent the combination survive/autopsy.
This is one field in [[CCMDB.mdb]]. It is two fields (survive/expire) and (autopsy) in Ed's database. It was implemented as a single field to prevent the combination survive/autopsy.


 
== Ongoing discussion whether to discontinue collection whether autopsy was done '''(pending)'''==
==Discussion==
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=== Discontinue collection whether Autopsy was done '''(pending)'''===
'''The following refers to an ongoing discussion, not to a change in collection rules. You will be advised when the change will be implemented.'''
'''The following refers to an ongoing discussion, not to a change in collection rules. You will be advised when the change will be implemented.'''


As discussed in the [[:Category:Critical Care Review Group|Critical Care Review Group]], our current collection practice is likely to miss whether a patient had an autopsy. When the patient dies we do not necessarily go back to their chart to find out if an autopsy happened.  
As discussed in the [[:Category:Critical Care Review Group|Critical Care Review Group]], our current collection practice is likely to miss whether a patient had an autopsy. When the patient dies we do not necessarily go back to their chart to find out if an autopsy happened.  
If this data is unreliable we should not be collecting it in this way. The steering committee has accepted this recommendation. (right Trish?)
If this data is unreliable we should not be collecting it in this way. The steering committee has accepted this recommendation, so we plan to stop collecting whether or not an Autopsy was done. (right Trish?){{discussion}}
 
We plan to stop collecting whether or not an Autopsy was done. The current version of [[CCMDB.mdb]] still requires this field to be completed, and the current version of HanDBase will not be changed to remove this field, so we need to find a way to implement this. To that end, the [[Postponed or rejected CCMDB changes#Take out Autopsy YES OR NO | topic]] has been added to postponed changes log because we are waiting for further, bigger changes in the collection of discharge data.
 
In the meantime we could stop collecting "autopsy" now. I could change the CCMDB.mdb send functionality to always send autopsy as "no". This would be a quick and easy change. Trish, what are your thoughts? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:27, 23 April 2009 (CDT)
 


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As of [[CCMDB.mdb_Change_Log_2009#v1.7_Isolation_output_fix.2C_minimum_dataset.2C_como_sort_order.2C_autopsy_field |v1.7]] CCMDB has by default sent "N" for autopsy. The field was left as is to not interfere with the PDAs/HanDBase. We can change this now.
* I will change the dropdown for Survive/Expire to only have two options, eliminating the autopsy split for expired. New optoins would be:
* Survive (no change)
* Expire (combines "Survive - Autopsy" and "Survive - No Autopsy"
Output would remain the same for import into Ed's program.
I'd need to make sure that pts who already have an Expired entry and who are currently in CCMDB.mdb would work right.
Any reasons not to implement this? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:08, 2 November 2010 (CDT)


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Revision as of 10:08, 2010 November 2

The Survive / Expired / Autopsy field tracks if a patient survived to be discharged, and if not, whether there was an autopsy.

Data encoding

This is one field in CCMDB.mdb. It is two fields (survive/expire) and (autopsy) in Ed's database. It was implemented as a single field to prevent the combination survive/autopsy.

Ongoing discussion whether to discontinue collection whether autopsy was done (pending)

Template:Discussion The following refers to an ongoing discussion, not to a change in collection rules. You will be advised when the change will be implemented.

As discussed in the Critical Care Review Group, our current collection practice is likely to miss whether a patient had an autopsy. When the patient dies we do not necessarily go back to their chart to find out if an autopsy happened. If this data is unreliable we should not be collecting it in this way. The steering committee has accepted this recommendation, so we plan to stop collecting whether or not an Autopsy was done. (right Trish?)Template:Discussion

Template:Discussion

finish this change

As of v1.7 CCMDB has by default sent "N" for autopsy. The field was left as is to not interfere with the PDAs/HanDBase. We can change this now.

  • I will change the dropdown for Survive/Expire to only have two options, eliminating the autopsy split for expired. New optoins would be:
  • Survive (no change)
  • Expire (combines "Survive - Autopsy" and "Survive - No Autopsy"

Output would remain the same for import into Ed's program. I'd need to make sure that pts who already have an Expired entry and who are currently in CCMDB.mdb would work right. Any reasons not to implement this? Ttenbergen 10:08, 2 November 2010 (CDT)