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== hemorrhagic transformation? == | == hemorrhagic transformation? == | ||
{{DiscussAllan | Could we use this course for "hemorrhagic transformation"? And I suppose, could we use whatever it's ICD10 counterpart for it? }} | {{DiscussAllan | Could we use this course for "hemorrhagic transformation"? And I suppose, could we use whatever it's ICD10 counterpart for it? }} | ||
*AG REPLY -- There is no single ICD10 code for hemorrhagic transformation of in initially ischemic stroke. Instead, what should be done is: Code both the ischemic stroke (either as [[Cerebral infarction/stroke due to embolism]] or [[Cerebral infarction/stroke, NOS]] '''AND''' combine that code with the appropriate code for the nontraumatic intracerebral hemorrhage. | |||
*If you have a patient who has had a CVA, who on a follow up CT has "hemorrhagic transformation", would you use this code? The hemorrhage didn't appear to cause symptoms, however ASA was held as a result. Would this even warrant coding?[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]] 15:32, 2017 April 11 (CDT) | *If you have a patient who has had a CVA, who on a follow up CT has "hemorrhagic transformation", would you use this code? The hemorrhage didn't appear to cause symptoms, however ASA was held as a result. Would this even warrant coding?[[User:Mlagadi|Mlagadi]] 15:32, 2017 April 11 (CDT) | ||
**AG REPLY -- this current article is not an ICD10 code. There is no single ICD10 code for hemorrhagic transformation of in initially ischemic stroke. Instead, what should be done is: Code both the ischemic stroke (either as [[Cerebral infarction/stroke due to embolism]] or [[Cerebral infarction/stroke, NOS]] '''AND''' combine that code with the appropriate code for the nontraumatic intracerebral hemorrhage. | |||
**We see these results not uncommonly in H4H at HSC post tPa in thrombic CVas-my premise has been if there are changes in their GCS and/or cerebral edema requiring intervention then I code as a comp related to anticoagulation ([[Complication of anticoagulation therapy]]) otherwise I do not capture-the neuro notes are usually pretty clear regarding the follow-up CTs done where these occur.--[[User:Llemoine|Llemoine]] 08:00, 2017 April 13 (CDT) | **We see these results not uncommonly in H4H at HSC post tPa in thrombic CVas-my premise has been if there are changes in their GCS and/or cerebral edema requiring intervention then I code as a comp related to anticoagulation ([[Complication of anticoagulation therapy]]) otherwise I do not capture-the neuro notes are usually pretty clear regarding the follow-up CTs done where these occur.--[[User:Llemoine|Llemoine]] 08:00, 2017 April 13 (CDT) | ||
***AG REPLY --- if the hemorrhage after an ischemic stroke was NOT spontaneous, but followed anticoagulation, then indeed the hemorrhage should be coded as '''[[Hemorrhage, due to anticoagulant drugs]]''' since it's not a spontaneous hemorrhagic transformation, and thus is a complication of treatment, not a complication of the stroke per se. | |||
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| Category/Organ System: |
Category: Neurological Problem (old) |
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| Main Diagnosis: | Intracerebral hemorrhage |
| Sub Diagnosis: | ICH 2nd to other cuases |
| Diagnosis Code: | 50290 - ICH 2nd to other causes |
| Comorbid Diagnosis: | No |
| Charlson Comorbid coding (pre ICD10): | 0 |
| Program: | CC & Med |
| Status: | Currently Collected
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ICH - Intra-cerebral hemorrage /intracerebral hemorrage
coding 50290 with a subcode 90 is the same as coding 50200 without a subcode. (other cause or unknown cause.
hemorrhagic transformation?
- AG REPLY -- There is no single ICD10 code for hemorrhagic transformation of in initially ischemic stroke. Instead, what should be done is: Code both the ischemic stroke (either as Cerebral infarction/stroke due to embolism or Cerebral infarction/stroke, NOS AND combine that code with the appropriate code for the nontraumatic intracerebral hemorrhage.
- If you have a patient who has had a CVA, who on a follow up CT has "hemorrhagic transformation", would you use this code? The hemorrhage didn't appear to cause symptoms, however ASA was held as a result. Would this even warrant coding?Mlagadi 15:32, 2017 April 11 (CDT)
- AG REPLY -- this current article is not an ICD10 code. There is no single ICD10 code for hemorrhagic transformation of in initially ischemic stroke. Instead, what should be done is: Code both the ischemic stroke (either as Cerebral infarction/stroke due to embolism or Cerebral infarction/stroke, NOS AND combine that code with the appropriate code for the nontraumatic intracerebral hemorrhage.
- We see these results not uncommonly in H4H at HSC post tPa in thrombic CVas-my premise has been if there are changes in their GCS and/or cerebral edema requiring intervention then I code as a comp related to anticoagulation (Complication of anticoagulation therapy) otherwise I do not capture-the neuro notes are usually pretty clear regarding the follow-up CTs done where these occur.--Llemoine 08:00, 2017 April 13 (CDT)
- AG REPLY --- if the hemorrhage after an ischemic stroke was NOT spontaneous, but followed anticoagulation, then indeed the hemorrhage should be coded as Hemorrhage, due to anticoagulant drugs since it's not a spontaneous hemorrhagic transformation, and thus is a complication of treatment, not a complication of the stroke per se.
- We see these results not uncommonly in H4H at HSC post tPa in thrombic CVas-my premise has been if there are changes in their GCS and/or cerebral edema requiring intervention then I code as a comp related to anticoagulation (Complication of anticoagulation therapy) otherwise I do not capture-the neuro notes are usually pretty clear regarding the follow-up CTs done where these occur.--Llemoine 08:00, 2017 April 13 (CDT)