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m bacterial encephalitis?: waiting to hear back from Dr Kumar about other pathogens
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Meningoencephalitis - is alway virus or atypical pathogen. Gm -ve or Grm +ve does not apply.
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== bacterial encephalitis? ==
== bacterial encephalitis? ==
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* in researching encephalitis, it does appear that bacterial meningitis like pneumococcal meningitis can lead to encephalitis (although it is very rare).  Our codes presently do not allow a bacterial pathogen for meningoencephalis and we do not have a code for only encephalitis.  I put two websites above if anyone is interested.  Should we allow a pathogen option for meningoencephalitis in light of this?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:23, 2015 September 23 (CDT)
* in researching encephalitis, it does appear that bacterial meningitis like pneumococcal meningitis can lead to encephalitis (although it is very rare).  Our codes presently do not allow a bacterial pathogen for meningoencephalitis and we do not have a code for only encephalitis.  I put two websites above if anyone is interested.  Should we allow a pathogen option for meningoencephalitis in light of this?--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:23, 2015 September 23 (CDT)
** Trish is in email conversation with Dr Kumar as of Feb 27, waiting to hear back. Ttenbergen 12:11, 2016 February 29 (CST)
**encephalitis is a DX code with the proper term being meningoencephalitis. But it is not meningitis.
**Encephalitis/meningoencephalitis is '''always viral''' or '''other atypical pathogen'''..but it is '''NOT bacterial or fungal.''' So the  pathogens we have listed are adequate.
**Meningitis however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.
**'''gram pos/neg does NOT apply''' to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably meningitis, not encephalitis. (ie: the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing).  Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “Meningitis”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.




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Revision as of 15:05, 29 February 2016

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This page is about the pre-ICD10 diagnosis coding schema. See the ICD10 Diagnosis List, or the following for similar diagnoses in ICD10:Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) (caused by Measles virus), Mosquito-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis), Tick-borne viruses (causes of encephalitis), Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, bacterial, Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, viral, Encephalitis, meningoencephalitis, myelitis, encephalomyelitis, infectious NOS

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Category/Organ
System:
Category: Infection (old)

Type:

Medical Problem

Main Diagnosis: Meningoencephalitis
Sub Diagnosis:
  • Negative Culture
  • Unknown Pathogen
  • HSV
  • Other Virus
  • No culture Sent
  • Syphilis
  • West Nile
Diagnosis Code: 7700
Comorbid Diagnosis: No
Charlson Comorbid coding (pre ICD10): 0
Program:
Status:


bacterial encephalitis?

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  • in researching encephalitis, it does appear that bacterial meningitis like pneumococcal meningitis can lead to encephalitis (although it is very rare). Our codes presently do not allow a bacterial pathogen for meningoencephalitis and we do not have a code for only encephalitis. I put two websites above if anyone is interested. Should we allow a pathogen option for meningoencephalitis in light of this?--LKolesar 14:23, 2015 September 23 (CDT)
    • encephalitis is a DX code with the proper term being meningoencephalitis. But it is not meningitis.
    • Encephalitis/meningoencephalitis is always viral or other atypical pathogen..but it is NOT bacterial or fungal. So the pathogens we have listed are adequate.
    • Meningitis however, can be bacterial, fungal or occasionally viral.
    • gram pos/neg does NOT apply to meningoenchphalitis. If you think that this is the organism causing the problem, then the underlying condition is probably meningitis, not encephalitis. (ie: the “meningo” part of “meningoencephalitis” is confusing). Meningoencephalitis is not the same as “Meningitis”…that is a separate diagnosis.--Dr. Anand Kumar, 1330, 2016, February 29.