Reasoning around moving to ICD10 and our subset of it: Difference between revisions

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===Diagnosis issues===
===Diagnosis issues===
==== Diagnoses without specific codes missing in ICD10 ====
==== Diagnoses without specific codes missing in ICD10 ====
Might help resolve these: [[ICD10_Diagnosis_List]]
Might help resolve these: [[ICD10_Diagnosis_List]]; moved to [[List of ICD10 Diagnoses we don't code]].
 
{{Discussion}} Missing Dx: Muscle Spasm [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 08:44, 2018 June 18 (CDT)
 
{{Discussion}} Should a code be included for hypoalbuminemia as a medical sign? It is fairly common with differing etiologies and sometimes treated with HSA replacement on medical units. [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 10:25, 2018 May 22 (CDT) 
 
{{Discussion}} Should a code for  mild cognitive impairment/decline be included to capture the intermediate stage between expected cognitive decline of normal aging and the more-serious decline of dementia? [[User:Ppiche|Pamela Piche]] 10:38, 2018 May 22 (CDT)
 
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* Missing Dx: Septic Emboli:  no specific code even though it is a very significant problems with endocarditis patients which can cause widespread clotting to any blood vessels which causes strokes, ischemia to many organs, etc.  }}
 
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* Missing Dx: Vasculitis:  only options are [[Vasculitis limited to skin, NOS]] or [[Necrotizing vasculopathy/vasculitis, NOS]]}}
 
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* Missing Dx: Intra-abdominal abscess:  only options are intestine, anus, liver, peritonitis.  No pancreatic abscess (do have pancreatitis and pseudocyst).
** [[Pancreatitis, acute NOS]] states that it includes pancreatic abscess... }}
 
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* Missing Dx: Medication/therapy non-compliance...I see the need for some reflection of this issue in a diagnostic code as I have frequent admission/ re-admissions for non-compliance with medications and/or therapies especially dialysis.--[[User:Llemoine|Llemoine]] 14:31, 2018 February 22 (CST)
** would that not be [[Medical noncompliance]]? }}
 
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* Missing Dx: Intrauterine death with chorioamnionitis.  Could use [[Medical abortion, with complication]] and link it to bacterial infection NOS but this still does not deal with the intrauterine death as the problem.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:11, 2018 April 20 (CDT)
** Is [[Missed abortion]] what you are looking for? }}
 
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* Missing Dx: meth/methamphetamine related dxs
** I recently had this on one of my patients and I ended up using psychoactive substance NOS, chronic abuse/dependence/addiction.  When I googled meth, it came up as a psychoactive drug.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:52, 2018 February 13 (CST) }}
* [https://ccmdb.kuality.ca/index.php?search=Psychoactive+substance+NOS&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns103=1&ns106=1&ns107=1&ns109=1 list of pages that need to be updated to mention meth/methamphetamine if we want it coded so]. Ttenbergen 19:12, 2018 April 10 (CDT)


==== Diagnoses where it is questionable whether we need them ====
==== Diagnoses where it is questionable whether we need them ====

Revision as of 10:01, 2018 June 20

This article explains our choice of ICD10 as a coding schema and of the subset of codes we include.

Why are we moving to a new diagnostic coding schema?

Our old diagnosis list was made in-house designed mostly for the Critical Care setting where our database started out. We are moving to a new diagnosis set primarily to make our data set more comparable to other data sets, and to include more diagnoses that are relevant to Internal Medicine physicians outside of the ICU setting.

Why are we moving to ICD10 rather than a different coding schema?

ICD10 is one of the most widely used diagnosis coding standards. It is the diagnosis coding schema used in all hospitals in Canada, including those in Manitoba. Using the same system as used elsewhere means that diagnoses don't need to be translated to another system, where often a 1-to-1 translation is not possible. It also means that our definitions are more likely to be equivalent to those used by other data sets.

Another benefit of moving to ICD10 will be that it should eliminate diagnoses for which we don't have a code, since ICD10 includes codes for diagnoses that have no specific code.

Why are we including the subset of diagnoses that we do

We are seeing increased interest by Internal Medicine physicians in our data set. Since they fund our program to a large extent, we need to make sure our data includes what they are interested in, in a format that is usable for them.

Why are we including some codes that are not part of ICD10-CA

Non-standard ICD10 Diagnoses lists these and provides reasons.

Why do we not include the entire set of ICD10 codes

The full ICD10 includes over 16000 diagnosis codes. We decided to only use a subset of this to make it easier to learn the new list. Any diagnoses whose codes we omitted can be assigned to the next more general NOS code.

Should we remove some?

Some diagnoses such as Alopecia (nonscarring hair loss), Albinism (albino), disorder of the nails do not initially seem significant enough to code. However, they should be retained so that they can be used as comorbidities, especially for medicine patients. For example, albinism is a condition associated with other genetic abnormalities.

Concerns

Pathogen issues

see Pathogens

Diagnosis issues

Diagnoses without specific codes missing in ICD10

Might help resolve these: ICD10_Diagnosis_List; moved to List of ICD10 Diagnoses we don't code.

Diagnoses where it is questionable whether we need them

Please put those right into the offending dxs. That way if we decide to keep them we can put the reason there, and if we decide to remove them we are already there.

APACHE/Charlson in ICD10