Violent 2nd to dementia

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Category/Organ System:	Category: Neurological Problem (old)
Type:	[[:Category: Medical Problem (old)]][[Category: Medical Problem (old)]]
Main Diagnosis:	Violent Behaviour 2nd to Dementia
Sub Diagnosis:	VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR 2nd TO DEMENTIA
Diagnosis Code:	53800 - Violent behavior 2nd to dementia
Comorbid Diagnosis:	No
Charlson Comorbid coding (pre ICD10):	0
Program:	Critical Care and Medicine
Status:	Currently Collected
Start Date:	May 27, 2004

Violent behavior secondary to "dementia" it the only "specific" reason we are tracking violent behavior. We will not change this until we go to ICU10. As discussed with Dr. Allan Garland. Trish Ostryzniuk 12:13, 2012 July 16 (CDT)

Other psychological problems we code bu do not differentiate if violence is or is not associated with the condition:

• 899-3- Schizophrenia (comorbid)
• 539-00- acute Psychosis
• 599-11- 2nd to Drug OD/ETOH Intox/Withdrawal (Toxic Encephalitis) drug withdrawal/intoxication (other neurological problems)
• 540-00- Confusion/Delirium
• Head Injuries (code?)

Code use for non-dementia reasons

• is anyone using this code for other reasons for violent behavior on wards?Trish Ostryzniuk 12:35, 2012 July 16 (CDT)
  • why restrict to med wards?
    • oaks had used code for other reasons.Trish Ostryzniuk 11:03, 2012 July 17 (CDT)

Name shortening

The full name in the coding guide is "VIOLENT BEHAVIOR - 2nd TO MODERATE/ SEVERE DEMENTIA" but had to be shortened to fit into the CCMDB.mdb. Template:Discussion

• the above name shortening is not good, creates confusion and folks are using this code for other reason for violent behaviour. This is not what we want. Please fix wording in ccmdb.Trish Ostryzniuk 12:13, 2012 July 16 (CDT)
  • Trish, I can make it longer in the CCMDB.mdb, but it won't be visible because the field is too short. Have a look in your version of the program to see what I mean. If you give me a wording that will fit the field I can update. Maybe "Violence" rather than Violent Behaviour... something like that. Even partial words or abbreviations would be OK as long as they cause looking up rather than assuming. Ttenbergen 10:32, 2012 July 17 (CDT)
    • Violent 2nd to Dementia?Trish Ostryzniuk 11:03, 2012 July 17 (CDT)
      • changed for CCMDB.mdb_Change_Log_2012#ver_2012-07-13 Ttenbergen 13:47, 2012 July 17 (CDT)