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I still need to implement this in CCMDB, but would welcome your comments already! | I still need to implement this in CCMDB, but would welcome your comments already! | ||
== Collection Instruction (''in progress | == Collection Instruction == | ||
(''in progress. Any collector can continue to rewrite to help make clearer - Thank you!'') | |||
For each patient, | For each patient, | ||
* In [[EPR]] find Patient name | * In [[EPR]] find Patient name | ||
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**Location History | **Location History | ||
***at the bottom of the page, you will see the specific hospital, and also the date/times in ER. | ***at the bottom of the page, you will see the specific hospital, and also the date/times in ER. | ||
** find the '''earliest date/time in the list; e.g. VGH-ED-Triage start. Use that date/time as your Visit Admit DtTm. | ***find the '''earliest date/time in the list; e.g. VGH-ED-Triage start. Use that date/time as your Visit Admit DtTm. | ||
* enter that date into the [[Visit Admit DtTm field]]. | * enter that date into the [[Visit Admit DtTm field]] in [[ccmdb.mdb]] | ||
{{Discussion}} Could someone sent me a screen shot of the button?)-[[Tina Tenbergen]] | {{Discussion}} Could someone sent me a screen shot of the button?)-[[Tina Tenbergen]] | ||
== Questions? == | == Questions? == | ||
Revision as of 12:26, 2016 April 22
This field is currently being implemented, please check the instructions and put a discussion for anything that isn't clear.
The Visit Admit DtTm field contains the date and time triaged/arrived/present in ER of the currrent hospitalization at your site.
I still need to implement this in CCMDB, but would welcome your comments already!
Collection Instruction
(in progress. Any collector can continue to rewrite to help make clearer - Thank you!)
For each patient,
- In EPR find Patient name
- go to:
- Registration
- Visit Location
- Location History
- at the bottom of the page, you will see the specific hospital, and also the date/times in ER.
- find the earliest date/time in the list; e.g. VGH-ED-Triage start. Use that date/time as your Visit Admit DtTm.
- enter that date into the Visit Admit DtTm field in ccmdb.mdb
Template:Discussion Could someone sent me a screen shot of the button?)-Tina Tenbergen
Questions?
- Do you see any issues collecting this? Ttenbergen 15:35, 2016 April 18 (CDT)
- patient transferred from ICMS to ward, ICU would have captured the first date and time in the EPR, what should medicine capture? the same date/time that ICU captured? Lisa Kaita 09:37, 2016 April 21 (CDT)
- Medicine would code the "Accept D/T" as admission to hospital D/T. Patients are not admitted until a service accepts them and admit orders are reflecting this as such.
- My understanding is that no matter what, we put the first presentation to the hospital in the "visit admit dttm field". In Lisa's example, the visit admit date and time will be the same as the ICU one as the pt presented to the hospital at the same time. The accept date and time to medicine is not an issue for ICU transfers as this time is the same as the arrive time on the ward.--LKolesar 11:04, 2016 April 22 (CDT)
- So what would be a better worded definition for this data field at the top of this article? Thanks!
- My understanding is that no matter what, we put the first presentation to the hospital in the "visit admit dttm field". In Lisa's example, the visit admit date and time will be the same as the ICU one as the pt presented to the hospital at the same time. The accept date and time to medicine is not an issue for ICU transfers as this time is the same as the arrive time on the ward.--LKolesar 11:04, 2016 April 22 (CDT)
- Medicine would code the "Accept D/T" as admission to hospital D/T. Patients are not admitted until a service accepts them and admit orders are reflecting this as such.
- patient transferred from ICMS to ward, ICU would have captured the first date and time in the EPR, what should medicine capture? the same date/time that ICU captured? Lisa Kaita 09:37, 2016 April 21 (CDT)
- Visit admit remains unclear to me...clients present to ER and are waiting to be seen etc prior their actual admission point...do you want this field representing the D/T when they present to ER?--Llemoine 11:20, 2016 April 21 (CDT)
- yes. See collection instruction above, where to find it in EPR.
Background
Right now you guys collect detailed to/from info in Var1/2. The details are primarily used for linking. Collecting the Hospital Admit DtTm will make that information irrelevant for wards where we don't collect, so we will be able to code "from" for wards where we don't collect just as "HSC Ward"(eg).
Data Use
This data is used to understand Length of Stay and for linking.
Template:CCMDB Data Integrity Checks
- must be <= Arrive DtTm field
Legacy
This field is part of the 2016 Time and Place changes.
It is being added to simplify the old linking - if we have the hospital admit date and time, we are done linking, none of the previous complex process will be needed any longer.