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~~==Do we~~ use ~~this? How? Ttenbergen 09:42, 2013 December 16 (CST)==~~

eChart's terms of use don't allow us to use it for data collection.

~~==Question~~ to ~~collectors==~~

~~{{Discussion}}~~

~~What type of information do you get from echart that you cannot get on EPR?[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:11, 2014 November 12 (CST)~~

~~I personally~~ don't ~~ever~~ use ~~EChart I have gotten all I need out~~ of ~~EPR--~~[[User:~~Dbieniarz~~|~~Dawna Marie Bieniarz~~]] 09:15, ~~2014 November 17~~ (CST)

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|explanation=eChart's terms of use don't allow us to use it for data collection.

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Stop Date: January 25, 2018. Stop using eChart. '''Legacy Data Collection'''

*Dr. Allan Garland has followed up on the matter. The Data in eChart is an accumulation of data that comes from lots of other sources that is in one location. For each of those sources there is a data sharing agreement in place. These data sharing agreements only allow for data in eChart to be used for direct care only. Even if they wanted to, they are unable to make a unilateral decision to allow us to use it for other purposes.

*There is a potential to support other purposes such as, quality improvement, surveillance, reporting and approved research however, at this time, the design and infrastructure of eChart does not contain the necessary security and privacy layers or policy framework to allow for broader use.

*They will take Dr. Garland points to the Information Management & Analytics Transformation Working Group meeting, to ensure that future intended solutions down the road, will support and perhaps allow for these “other” purposes. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 15:37, 2018 January 25 (CST)

eChart can be accessed two ways, either independently from MY citrix or within the [[EPR]]. Within the EPR when you access a patient’s chart there is also a tab for eChart.

*As per list received by [[p:Trish Ostryzniuk | Trish]] on September 1, 2017, all collectors have access under their user network user login and password.

== eChart training on [[LMS]] ==

IMPORTANT: All staff '''must complete''' the training, 2 modules in [[LMS]] '''before''' using eChart.

*eChart Fundamental - online

*eChart Overview - online

== Usage agreement – use only permitted for patient care ==

According to their usage agreement, eChart can only be used for '''patient care'''. Our program provides support for patient care as part of [[overstay]]. That project only included Medicine patients, so we can only use eChart if you are doing medicine patients. For collection this means: only access eChart to fill in information for the stay on a medical ward. If the patient came from an ICU you can refer to information for that stay only for entering data into the medicine collection.

*The distinction seems kind of odd from a practical perspective, but this is the way we are legally allowed and were given permission to use the eChart data.

==Privacy Officer==

[[p:Trish Ostryzniuk]]

*gets intermittent usage report to audit and review.

==what kind of information do you obtain?==

What type of information do you get from eChart that you cannot get on EPR?

===CON===

*I am unable to access echart on the laptop via My Citrix Apps or echart shortcut. (Able to access on desktops throughout the hospital). A dialogue box pops up : "Workstation (laptop ID) is not in Database. Please contact your system administrator". Should this request for access be done by Trish or Tina??[[User:Mlaporte|Mlaporte]] 10:40, 2013 December 16 (CST)

*all collectors have access as of Sept 2017.

** Thanks Marie, I have ~~sent a ticket to eHealth to find out more (INC000000529858). Ttenbergen 16:25, 2013 December 16 (CST)~~

***Tina and or Marie - did this get solved, if so remove from here.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 20:12, 2014 October 8 (CDT){{discussion}}

**** I don't know if this was resolved. Marie? Considering the info I got from eHealth re. how this is set up, you should be able to access this from your laptop if you can access ~~it from other PCs~~. ~~Ttenbergen 12:01, 2014 October 20~~

***** I have not tried to access eChart from the Concordia, but have been unable to access eChart at SBGH/HSC/GGH when I have covered there, I will check at the Concordia and post here [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 19:48, 2014 November 12 (CST)(CDT)

===VIC===

* We are able to use ~~EChart~~ and EPR

*minimal use of eChart - report last used 2017-Sept (one user)

** Here at the Vic EPR is not running fully like at StB so we use both ~~EChart~~ and EPR if we cant find results in one we check the other. So far micro and xrays are easy to find on ~~Echart~~ compared to EPR

**We are able to use eChart and EPR

**Short answer is I find no difference between EPR and ~~echart~~ in terms of results reporting that I am aware of,other than to say that eChart viewing may be site specific and is formatted differently than EPR. EPR is used by most (?all) sites and some sites have more information available on EPR than others in terms of IPN, vital signs, etc. depending on what stage they are at.

*** Here at the Vic EPR is not running fully like at StB so we use both eChart and EPR if we cant find results in one we check the other. So far micro and xrays are easy to find on eChart compared to EPR.

****Short answer is I find no difference between EPR and eChart in terms of results reporting that I am aware of,other than to say that eChart viewing may be site specific and is formatted differently than EPR. EPR is used by most (?all) sites and some sites have more information available on EPR than others in terms of IPN, vital signs, etc. depending on what stage they are at.

*****Hi guys, Trish here....not sure what your are talking about in paragraph above. eChart and EPR are different. First note indicated you only use it for radiology reports and Micro. DI viewer is what staff are suppose to use for Xrays.

******I don‘t have much to add to the list. I have looked up chest xray results as well as the other mentioned diagnostics.--[[p:Michelle Lagadi]]-May 1.15

===GRA===

* I am able to access ~~sometimes~~, ~~other times I have password~~ issues~~. This is being followed by EHealth.~~

*Stephanie: Use on very odd occasion

** ~~Is that still a problem? Does this follow any patterns with which laptop you are using at the time? Ttenbergen 10:16, 2014 October 9 (CDT) {{discussion}}~~

**I access via tab on EPR rather than desktop icon

***steph, Dawna and Kelsey, each of ~~you please advise....[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:42, 2014 November 14 (CST)~~

*One collector "sometimes" able to access, intermittent issues - last used Sept 2017

**all have access as of Sept 2017

===OAK===

*~~I do not have access as a data collector but would like to.~~ I find it a less cumbersome site to navigate than EPR and would find it much easier to do lab tallies should we ever go paperless at SOGH. When I attempt to log in from my laptop, I am denied access even though I have a password that works when I am working at other computers.--[[User:Lpruden2|Lpruden2]] 09:09, 2014 October 7 (CDT)

*I find it a less cumbersome site to navigate than EPR and would find it much easier to do lab tallies should we ever go paperless at SOGH. When I attempt to log in from my laptop, I am denied access even though I have a password that works when I am working at other computers.--[[User:Lpruden2|Lpruden2]] 09:09, 2014 October 7 (CDT)

**last used July 19.17

===HSC===

We do not have access to ~~EChart~~.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 14:46, 2014 November 13 (CST)

*We do not have access to eChart.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 14:46, 2014 November 13 (CST)

**noted that Judy had logged into eChart Oct/Nov twice? Judy talk to Trish. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 14:22, 2016 November 17 (CST)

***all have access as of Sept 2017.

===STB===

I do not use E chart as I find everything that I need on EPR and the paper chart combination. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 12:48, 2014 October 8 (CDT)

*I do not use E chart as I find everything that I need on EPR and the paper chart combination. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 12:48, 2014 October 8 (CDT)

**I would like to be able to access E chart just to see if it has some benefit to our program. I am at a disadvantage because I have never seen it. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:44, 2014 November 17 (CST)

***last used Nov 2014 by 2 collectors & one collector May 2016

****collectors all have access as of Sept 2017.

== Set-up ==

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== Further info? ==

* http://services.manitoba-ehealth.ca/echart.html

* http://www.echartmanitoba.ca

* http://services.manitoba-ehealth.ca/files/sdeChart.pdf Services MB ehealth

* http://www.manitoba-ehealth.ca/

* http://www.echartmanitoba.ca~~/locations.html~~

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~~[[Category: Hospital EPR]]~~

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-==Do we use this? How? Ttenbergen 09:42, 2013 December 16 (CST)==
+eChart's terms of use don't allow us to use it for data collection.
-==Question to collectors==
-{{Discussion}}
-What type of information do you get from echart that you cannot get on EPR?[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 19:11, 2014 November 12 (CST)
-I personally don't ever use EChart I have gotten all I need out of EPR--[[User:Dbieniarz|Dawna Marie Bieniarz]] 09:15, 2014 November 17 (CST)
+{{LegacyContent
+|explanation=eChart's terms of use don't allow us to use it for data collection.
+|content=
+ Stop Date: January 25, 2018.  Stop using eChart.  '''Legacy Data Collection'''
+*Dr. Allan Garland has followed up on the matter.  The Data in eChart is an accumulation of data that comes from lots of other sources that is in one location.  For each of those sources there is a data sharing agreement in place.  These data sharing agreements only allow for data in eChart to be used for direct care only.  Even if they wanted to, they are unable to make a unilateral decision to allow us to use it for other purposes.
+*There is a potential to support other purposes such as, quality improvement, surveillance, reporting and approved research however, at this time, the design and infrastructure of eChart does not contain the necessary security and privacy layers or policy framework to allow for  broader use.
+*They will take Dr. Garland points to the Information Management & Analytics Transformation Working Group meeting, to ensure that future intended solutions down the road, will support and perhaps allow for these “other” purposes. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 15:37, 2018 January 25 (CST)
+eChart can be accessed two ways, either independently from MY citrix or within the [[EPR]].  Within the EPR when you access a patient’s chart there is also a tab for eChart.
+*As per list received by [[p:Trish Ostryzniuk | Trish]] on  September 1,  2017, all collectors have access under their user network user login and password.
+== eChart training on [[LMS]] ==
+IMPORTANT:  All staff '''must complete''' the training, 2 modules in [[LMS]] '''before''' using eChart.
+*eChart Fundamental - online
+*eChart Overview - online
+== Usage agreement – use only permitted for patient care ==
+According to their usage agreement, eChart can only be used for '''patient care'''. Our program provides support for patient care as part of [[overstay]].  That project only included Medicine patients, so we can only use eChart if you are doing medicine patients.  For collection this means: only access eChart to fill in information for the stay on a medical ward. If the patient came from an ICU you can refer to information for that stay only for entering data into the medicine collection.
+*The distinction seems kind of odd from a practical perspective, but this is the way we are legally allowed and were given permission to use the eChart data.
+==Privacy Officer==
+[[p:Trish Ostryzniuk]]
+*gets intermittent usage report to audit and review.
+==what kind of information do you obtain?==
+What type of information do you get from eChart that you cannot get on EPR?
 ===CON===
-*I am unable to access echart on the laptop via My Citrix Apps or echart shortcut. (Able to access on desktops throughout the hospital).  A dialogue box pops up : "Workstation (laptop ID) is not in Database. Please contact your system administrator".  Should this request for access be done by Trish or Tina??[[User:Mlaporte|Mlaporte]] 10:40, 2013 December 16 (CST)
+*all collectors have access as of Sept 2017.
-** Thanks Marie, I have sent a ticket to eHealth to find out more (INC000000529858). Ttenbergen 16:25, 2013 December 16 (CST)
-***Tina and or Marie - did this get solved, if so remove from here.[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 20:12, 2014 October 8 (CDT){{discussion}}
-**** I don't know if this was resolved. Marie? Considering the info I got from eHealth re. how this is set up, you should be able to access this from your laptop if you can access it from other PCs. Ttenbergen 12:01, 2014 October 20
-***** I have not tried to access eChart from the Concordia, but have been unable to access eChart at SBGH/HSC/GGH when I have covered there, I will check at the Concordia and post here [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 19:48, 2014 November 12 (CST)(CDT)
 ===VIC===
-* We are able to use EChart and EPR
+*minimal use of eChart  - report last used 2017-Sept (one user)
-** Here at the Vic EPR is not running fully like at StB so we use both EChart and EPR  if we cant find results in one we check the other. So far micro and xrays are easy to find on Echart compared to EPR
+**We are able to use eChart and EPR
-**Short answer is I find no difference between EPR and echart in terms of results reporting that I am aware of,other than to say that eChart viewing may be site specific and is formatted differently than EPR. EPR is used by most (?all) sites and some sites have more information available on EPR than others in terms of IPN, vital signs, etc. depending on what stage they are at.
+*** Here at the Vic EPR is not running fully like at StB so we use both eChart and EPR  if we cant find results in one we check the other. So far micro and xrays are easy to find on eChart compared to EPR.
+****Short answer is I find no difference between EPR and eChart in terms of results reporting that I am aware of,other than to say that eChart viewing may be site specific and is formatted differently than EPR. EPR is used by most (?all) sites and some sites have more information available on EPR than others in terms of IPN, vital signs, etc. depending on what stage they are at.
+*****Hi guys, Trish here....not sure what your are talking about in paragraph above.  eChart and EPR are different.  First note indicated you only use it for radiology reports and Micro.  DI viewer is what staff are suppose to use for Xrays.
+******I don‘t have much to add to the list. I have looked up chest xray results as well as the other mentioned diagnostics.--[[p:Michelle Lagadi]]-May 1.15
 ===GRA===
-* I am able to access sometimes, other times I have password issues. This is being followed by EHealth.
+*Stephanie: Use on very odd occasion
-** Is that still a problem? Does this follow any patterns with which laptop you are using at the time? Ttenbergen 10:16, 2014 October 9 (CDT) {{discussion}}
+**I access via tab on EPR rather than desktop icon
-***steph, Dawna and Kelsey, each of you please advise....[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 12:42, 2014 November 14 (CST)
+*One collector "sometimes" able to access, intermittent issues - last used Sept 2017
+**all have access as of Sept 2017
 ===OAK===
-*I do not have access as a data collector but would like to. I find it a less cumbersome site to navigate than EPR and would find it much easier to do lab tallies should we ever go paperless at SOGH. When I attempt to log in from my laptop, I am denied access even though I have a password that works when I am working at other computers.--[[User:Lpruden2|Lpruden2]] 09:09, 2014 October 7 (CDT)
+*I find it a less cumbersome site to navigate than EPR and would find it much easier to do lab tallies should we ever go paperless at SOGH. When I attempt to log in from my laptop, I am denied access even though I have a password that works when I am working at other computers.--[[User:Lpruden2|Lpruden2]] 09:09, 2014 October 7 (CDT)
+**last used July 19.17
 ===HSC===
-We do not have access to EChart.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 14:46, 2014 November 13 (CST)
+*We do not have access to eChart.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 14:46, 2014 November 13 (CST)
+**noted that Judy had logged into eChart Oct/Nov twice?  Judy talk to Trish. [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 14:22, 2016 November 17 (CST)
+***all have access as of Sept 2017.
 ===STB===
-I do not use E chart as I find everything that I need on EPR and the paper chart combination. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 12:48, 2014 October 8 (CDT)
+*I do not use E chart as I find everything that I need on EPR and the paper chart combination. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 12:48, 2014 October 8 (CDT)
+**I would like to be able to access E chart just to see if it has some benefit to our program.  I am at a disadvantage because I have never seen it.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:44, 2014 November 17 (CST)
+***last used Nov 2014 by 2 collectors & one collector May 2016
+****collectors all have access as of Sept 2017.
 == Set-up ==
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 == Further info? ==
-* http://services.manitoba-ehealth.ca/echart.html
+* http://www.echartmanitoba.ca
-* http://services.manitoba-ehealth.ca/files/sdeChart.pdf Services MB ehealth
-* http://www.manitoba-ehealth.ca/
-* http://www.echartmanitoba.ca/locations.html
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-[[Category: Hospital EPR]]
+}}