I implemented 'item must not be "not entered" and 40 records in the data I had at the time a "not entered" in complete data. Did I misunderstand the instructions? Or are these correct instructions and should be implemented as that?
We need to clean up this page and likely some linking to it. I don't know the truth on the ground so can't just do it. Something do do in one of the wiki wrangling efforts LK and TT may want to schedule one of these days. Ttenbergen 12:35, 20 March 2025 (CDT)
what if they spend time in an ED in between as part of re-admission, possibly pushing past the 7 day range? Due to the very long ER delays for LAU I think we would want to include those. Ttenbergen 00:06, 12 March 2025 (CDT
These would be included because I am using the ADT/EPR readmits and the admit time reflects first time of presentation and an ensuing admission Lisa Kaita 12:13, 10 April 2025 (CDT))
to be perfectly clear: if someone is discharged from LAU on Jan 1, and then presents to an ED at GRA, where they decide the person should go to LAU, but the patient is not transferred and made an inpatient again at an LAU for another 3 days (pushing their new admission past the 10 day window), would you tag them as a re-admission? Ttenbergen 12:42, 10 April 2025 (CDT)
Yes, I believe it would because in EPR for patient visits, the patient you describe would show them as an inpatient, beginning Jan 7, even though by our definition they are not an inpt til the LAU folks accept them. I would not be able to decipher the actual first service time without having the chart or running an EPR report. Lisa Kaita 12:49, 10 April 2025 (CDT)
We discussed this in our after-Task meeting 2023-07-23 and I just stumbled across it. I do not remember what this was about, nor what a reasonable delay would be. Could one of you fill in the details for the query if we still want it? No hurry. In fact I'd prefer if you not hurried ;-). Ttenbergen 21:38, 13 August 2025 (CDT)
this came about when the Pre-admit Inpatient Institution location is own site and previous location is own ER and the VADT is too close to first boarding loc dttm. If I remember correctly you mentioned 6 hours (0.25d) gap as maybe entry error on the preadmit inpt. Is 12 hours (0.50d) reasonable? --JMojica 09:23, 14 August 2025 (CDT)
do we need to be specific here that this should always mean setting a boarding loc to a later dttm in case a pt was there earlier? I would not want someone to omit an initial boarding loc and set the second location's time to earlier
wouldn't our cross checks capture this? As long as collectors follow the above instruction the first boarding loc has to have the same DTTM Lisa Kaita 11:16, 7 August 2025 (CDT)
That more detailed info included things like HSC Lennox Bell; we discussed whether or not we need to document the details of this. If so, the following is likely a starting point:
Manitoba Adolescent Treatment Center - unknown/other
what is this about again? we already collect these with the exception of the transitional care units, which don't exist, at GH, HSC, SBGH and VIC, but there is a TCU at Miseri and DLC Lisa Kaita 21:18, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
we discussed whether we should shift to EPR's "TRSF to Residential Care" and decided not to because our data is more granular. But we should be able to compare to their TRSF, so should understand which of our data would compare to theirs, and how. I think the above is a list of what we have in dispo, so which of those correspond do what listing in EPR? Ttenbergen 10:31, 8 September 2025 (CDT)
I think these are covered in the instructions above can we remove this discussion? Lisa Kaita 20:32, 9 March 2026 (CDT)
Many are, Lennox is not. Not sure which others we would want someone to code when Cognos says "trsf to residential". Ttenbergen 02:10, 11 March 2026 (CDT)
That is what we need to decide we should probably keep it consistent with EMIP concept, however, for SICU we generally disregard the surgical service (when in ER) unless they were truly an inpt on a ward Lisa Kaita 13:59, 30 July 2025 (CDT)
