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These checks are currently done partly by Pagasa ([[! Automated Data Integrity Checks]]) and are about to be implemented in [[CCMDB.mdb]].
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== Data Integrity Rules ==
See also [[ICD10 Guideline for Renal Coding]]
If comorbid [[CRF - Chronic Renal Failure|CRF]] (351-00) exists then the following must not appear in Admit/Acquired codes
* [[ARI]] (364-00)
* [[Acute Tubular Necrosis | ATN]]  (352-00)
* [[ARF (Diagnosis)]]  (350 **) must '''not''' be coded as Admit/Acquired '''except''' if Renal Transplant (805 00) is also coded as a comorbid


These rules are currently checked at the main office and result in calls for clarification from Pagasa if broken.
There are a few restrictions about which renal diagnoses can be coded together. These checks are currently done partly by Pagasa and have been partly implemented in [[CCMDB.accdb]].


== CRF in pt with transplant failure ==
Just a comment about '''[[CRF - Chronic Renal Failure]]''': when pt has [[Renal Transplant Problems]] and/or [[Renal Transplant|Renal Transplant - Removal of Transplant-Organ]] and requires dialysis, they can have acquired diagnoses of '''[[ARF (Diagnosis)]]''', '''[[Acute Tubular Necrosis (ATN)]]''' and/or [[ARI]], which is related to their new donor kidney.


* If diagnosis [[CRF - Chronic Renal Failure]] exists ind comorbid Diagnosis slot, the ARF box in Apache Lab must not be checked.
== [[:Category:Renal insufficiency (old)]] ==
About to implement that. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 11:02, 20 August 2009 (CDT)
*'''Comorbid'''
**[[Renal insufficiency-mild (creatinine 160-240 mmol)]]
**[[Renal Insufficiency-moderate (Cr greater than 240)]]
*'''Admit or complication'''
**[[ARI]] there is a different range - creatinine rise of >250 mmol OR a rise of >100 mmol from baseline over 24 hrs. 
*'''No dialysis''' or
*'''N history of CRF''' 
**if patient required acute dialysis, it is not due to renal insufficiency - please see [[ARF]]
**This is in the code book but not on the Wiki.  (code books OLD so folks should not use).


== Data Integrity Checks ==
These rules are currently checked at the main office and result in calls for clarification from Pagasa if broken. Some of them have been added to [[CCMDB.accdb]], more are to follow.


===discussion===
=== CCMDB Data Integrity Checks: Competing Diagnoses ===
{{discussion}}
see [[query Check Renal IncompatibleDxs]]
When these are addressed, please edit [[Requested CCMDB changes for the next version#ARF & CRF & ARI Integrity Check | Requested CCMDB changes for the next version]] to state the discussion is done so the checks can be implemented in [[CCMDB.mdb]].


* I think we decided to get rid of the renal transplant part for this, right? If so, please remove both that part and this comment... Otherwise, the one-week clock is now ticking for its removal, pending an explanation why it should not be removed. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:57, 23 April 2009 (CDT)
=== Diagnoses, Comos vs. Tasks, locations ===
* see [[Check_Renal_Tasks]]


=== Apache vs. CRF comorbid ===
* see [[Query check ApARF CRF]].


* The 364 is new since the discussion about the cleaner. What is it about? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 15:55, 5 November 2008 (CST)
=== Apache vs. ARF Dx ===
**Yes, since I have been further reviewing patient profiles in more detail from the problems that SAS has generated, I see renal insufficiency (364) being coded in admit or complication DX slots for patients who have a comorbid condition of chronic renal failure (351).
cross-checks impossible due to different definitions, see [[ARF (Diagnosis)]] and [[ARF (APACHE)]]
*This article mentions something about transplant. Is that still accurate? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 14:12, 18 February 2009 (CST)


* how about the following: (Renal Insufficiency Mild 36487), ( Renal Insufficiency Moderate 36488) [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:35, 27 August 2009 (CDT)
== Data Integrity Checks that can '''not''' be checked before sending==
* ''Query check_CCI_TISS_Dxs_vs_Dialysis''


* Can any of the codes not co-exist, aside CRF vs all? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:35, 27 August 2009 (CDT)
== Related articles ==
see [[:Category:Renal Problem (old)]] for other renal problems
{{Related Articles}}


* (moved from "Category talk:Task Elements"): For Renal Transplants the tasks present a problem still in access for Pegasa.If a patient is admitted with 893 (Pre-OP Optimization) and has a complication of 805 (Renal Transplant) Even though they have a co-morb of 351 (Chronic Renal Failure, it is possible that no dialysis is required.
[[Category:Renal Problem (old)]]
Second if patient admitted with 805 (Renal Transplant) and have a comorb of 351 (Chronic Renal Failure) It is possible that dialysis is not required. Is this clear?--[[User:FLindell|FLindell]] 13:28, 27 August 2009 (CDT)
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See also ICD10 Guideline for Renal Coding

There are a few restrictions about which renal diagnoses can be coded together. These checks are currently done partly by Pagasa and have been partly implemented in CCMDB.accdb.

CRF in pt with transplant failure

Just a comment about CRF - Chronic Renal Failure: when pt has Renal Transplant Problems and/or Renal Transplant - Removal of Transplant-Organ and requires dialysis, they can have acquired diagnoses of ARF (Diagnosis), Acute Tubular Necrosis (ATN) and/or ARI, which is related to their new donor kidney.

Category:Renal insufficiency (old)

Data Integrity Checks

These rules are currently checked at the main office and result in calls for clarification from Pagasa if broken. Some of them have been added to CCMDB.accdb, more are to follow.

CCMDB Data Integrity Checks: Competing Diagnoses

see query Check Renal IncompatibleDxs

Diagnoses, Comos vs. Tasks, locations

Apache vs. CRF comorbid

Apache vs. ARF Dx

cross-checks impossible due to different definitions, see ARF (Diagnosis) and ARF (APACHE)

Data Integrity Checks that can not be checked before sending

  • Query check_CCI_TISS_Dxs_vs_Dialysis

Related articles

see Category:Renal Problem (old) for other renal problems

Related articles:
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