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==== IICU Consulted but pt deteriorates before transfer ==== | ==== IICU Consulted but pt deteriorates before transfer ==== | ||
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* How do you want us to handle cases where IICU has been consulted and accepted but then the patient's condition deteriorates prior to getting a bed in IICU and is no longer a candidate for IICU? [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 09:06, 2018 November 8 (CST)}} | * How do you want us to handle cases where IICU has been consulted and accepted but then the patient's condition deteriorates prior to getting a bed in IICU and is no longer a candidate for IICU? [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 09:06, 2018 November 8 (CST)}} | ||
=== Why not put this in Transfer Ready DtTm? === | |||
* Why do we need a project to determine the patient days waiting for transfer when we already put in the [[Transfer Ready DtTm]]? I suggest we just put another option in the drop down for transfer ready which would read "waiting for IICU bed" and then you would have the information you need without a new tmp item. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:59, 2018 November 6 (CST) | * Why do we need a project to determine the patient days waiting for transfer when we already put in the [[Transfer Ready DtTm]]? I suggest we just put another option in the drop down for transfer ready which would read "waiting for IICU bed" and then you would have the information you need without a new tmp item. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:59, 2018 November 6 (CST) | ||
** The definition for [[Transfer Ready DtTm]] says to enter the first time they are transfer ready. This may not be the first time. Also, we prefer not to add temporary data to existing fields because it would change their definition with special cases, and mess with cross-checks that are based on those fields. Ttenbergen 10:52, 2018 November 6 (CST) | ** The definition for [[Transfer Ready DtTm]] says to enter the first time they are transfer ready. This may not be the first time. Also, we prefer not to add temporary data to existing fields because it would change their definition with special cases, and mess with cross-checks that are based on those fields. Ttenbergen 10:52, 2018 November 6 (CST) |
Revision as of 20:12, 2018 November 8
Projects | |
Active?: | planned |
Program: | CC |
Requestor: | Bojan P / Jodi / Adrian |
Collection start: | |
Collection end: |
Purpose
To capture the number of patient days waiting for transfer from acute ICU bed to IICU bed
Data Collection
For every Critical Care patient who has a consult to IICU, obtain the date and time order was written by ICU requesting IICU consult.
(We do not need the date when IICU doc answered consult at this time. Bojan. 2018_Nov_2.)
How to code
- Project: IICU consult
- Item: request written by ICU
- Date (Column E): Date request for consult was written
- Time (Column M): Time request for consult was written
- Integer: not used
- Real: not used
- Checkbox: not used
- Comment: not used
Sources
- physician orders
- consult form
- IPN (integrated progress notes)
Special Cases
IICU Consulted but pt deteriorates before transfer
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Why not put this in Transfer Ready DtTm?
- Why do we need a project to determine the patient days waiting for transfer when we already put in the Transfer Ready DtTm? I suggest we just put another option in the drop down for transfer ready which would read "waiting for IICU bed" and then you would have the information you need without a new tmp item. --LKolesar 07:59, 2018 November 6 (CST)
- The definition for Transfer Ready DtTm says to enter the first time they are transfer ready. This may not be the first time. Also, we prefer not to add temporary data to existing fields because it would change their definition with special cases, and mess with cross-checks that are based on those fields. Ttenbergen 10:52, 2018 November 6 (CST)
Data use
validating resource use and need.
Study Run Times
- start date: 2018-11-12
- projected end date: 2019-06-30
Consistency Checks
<Any? Might want to wait for first bit of collection so that special cases don't stop collection or cause maladaptive data.>
Related articles
Polling for ease of ID'ing Date and Time of consult
Can the collectors easily find in the chart when a consult for IICU or order for IICU consult is made?Trish Ostryzniuk 18:43, 2018 October 31 (CDT)
- would you be able to find DATE and TIME consult was ordered? Trish Ostryzniuk 11:35, 2018 November 2 (CDT)
- OAK: I have not seen a consult at Oaks for IICU but it would be easily identified in the consults, notes and or orders;
- GRA: it is easily identified in the orders, consult and or notes Lisa Kaita 21:06, 2018 October 31 (CDT)
- STB: the orders including consults are all electronic so it would be easy to obtain this data. --LKolesar 18:30, 2018 November 1 (CDT)
- HSC: we can usually find something in the orders, consults and/or IPN about the intention to send someone to IICU.