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'''E'''mergency '''C'''ritical Care '''I'''n'''P'''atient.
{{DiscussTask |We keep discussing whether [[EMIP]] like patients should be collected in Critical Care. Consensus is that they are rare, but for consistency it would be good if we caught them.  At task meeting 2020 Jan 29, reviewed. Question: Is this easy to get from EPR?  Trish reviewed with [[p:Lisa kaita]] and apparently fairly easy to catch.
 
*Currently any ECIP are documented in CCMDB TMP project [[Boarding Loc]].}}--[[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 16:49, 2020 February 5 (CST)
 
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== Entering an ECIP ==
They are really just a special case of a Critical Care patient whose only [[Boarding Loc]] entry is that site's ER. See [[Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry]], [[2020-10 EMIP changes]].
 
=== "But I never had an ECIP code" ===
No one had an ECIP code. This sort of thing was not collected until now, and we used to think it doesn't exist. It exists now. However, since we no longer use special codes for these, no ECIP codes were generated.
 
=== Collection Instructions  ===


*ECIPs under MICU service to Medicine units enter the following for the Medicine profile:
** For [[Previous Location]] enter <site> MICU, for GGH enter GH_CC
** For [[Pre-admit Inpatient Institution]] enter <site> MICU, for GGH enter GH_CC
** For [[Previous Service]] enter critical care


'''E'''mergency '''C'''ritical Care '''I'''n'''P'''atient.  
== Identifying an ECIP ==
=== ECIPs related to '''MICUs''' / under one of the Critical Care services ===
A critical care / MICU ECIP is a patient who was under the care of one of the Critical Care service(s) in the ER and never made it to the MICU (see [[EMIP]] for scenarios). See [[s_Cognos_Services table]] in [[CCMDB.accdb]] for list.  


We keep discussing whether [[EMIP]] like patients should be collected in Critical Care. Consensus is that they are rare, but for consistency it would be good if we caught them.  We are seeing increasing occurring at the Grace.


This was on the task team's list for a while but there was no appetite to start doing this.  
Such a patient will show up in the [[Cognos Report Integrator]] listings just like an [[EMIP]] patient.  


Email from Trish 2016-11-10:
== ECIPs related to SICUs ==
: Main office should take this to TASK meeting.  ICU patient entire LOS in ER before being sent to another ICU at another site or to another Physician Service.
A critical care surgical / SICU ECIP is a patient who was under the care of one of the Critical Care Surgical Service(s) in the ER and never made it to the SICU.  In COGNOS this will appear in the CSS as a critical care Trauma service, or Critical care Plastic surgery service, or Critical care Neurosurgery service etc
:I know we are all keen are having data to see what patient flow is and if there are ICU patient under ICU attending but they stay in ER before they go to another ICU because not bed in own ICU or other reasons, then should we capture these?  Really not physically in own ICU, but is in ER occupying bed under an ICU attending?


:Now that we have the ERP Reports, we can find things like this however, we need to discuss if value to ICU database to include.  I know everyone is interested in patient flow and I was previously told that there is not that much delay when ICU attending accept patient, then when they are transferred to ICU. But there are a number we have seeing that sit it ER under ICU attending in one center then go from that ER to another site ICU.


== How to you pick out ECIP in EPR Reports ==
A patient who is '''not''' under the care of one of the Critical Care services (see [[s_Cognos_Services table]] in [[CCMDB.accdb]] for list) may show up in the [[Cognos Report Integrator]] listings if they were under one of a set of services we identified (see "* Surgery /*" in [[s_Cognos_Services table]] in [[CCMDB.accdb]] for list). However, we have no way to tell a patient under e.g. a surgery service who then went to a unit (or home) from a patient under such service who should have gone to ICU but didn't get there.
EPR report:
* a lengthy discussion was had re. SICU ECIP's which we have not ever had, but could still in theory happen.  I am confident that COGNOS would capture these under the critical care service, the likelihood of this happening is very small, as a patient who requires an emergent surgery would go to the OR and either SICU/PACU post op or to a surgical ward.  COGNOS should capture the critical care surgical service.  We routinely capture the SICU overflow in PACU through COGNOS, SICU has not overflow in the ER [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 11:08, 2024 March 12 (CDT)
*Admit Report, chose ER
*run for dates needed
*will list all clients in ER however, you can see which ones are under Critical Care Service
*if they were not admitted to ICU then these are likely patient that stayed in ER under CC Service.




== How to identify ECIPs in [[Cognos EPR Report]] ==
As [[EMIP]], but with a Critical Care service.


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Emergency Critical Care InPatient.


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Entering an ECIP

They are really just a special case of a Critical Care patient whose only Boarding Loc entry is that site's ER. See Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry, 2020-10 EMIP changes.

"But I never had an ECIP code"

No one had an ECIP code. This sort of thing was not collected until now, and we used to think it doesn't exist. It exists now. However, since we no longer use special codes for these, no ECIP codes were generated.

Collection Instructions

Identifying an ECIP

ECIPs related to MICUs / under one of the Critical Care services

A critical care / MICU ECIP is a patient who was under the care of one of the Critical Care service(s) in the ER and never made it to the MICU (see EMIP for scenarios). See s_Cognos_Services table in CCMDB.accdb for list.


Such a patient will show up in the Cognos Report Integrator listings just like an EMIP patient.

ECIPs related to SICUs

A critical care surgical / SICU ECIP is a patient who was under the care of one of the Critical Care Surgical Service(s) in the ER and never made it to the SICU. In COGNOS this will appear in the CSS as a critical care Trauma service, or Critical care Plastic surgery service, or Critical care Neurosurgery service etc


A patient who is not under the care of one of the Critical Care services (see s_Cognos_Services table in CCMDB.accdb for list) may show up in the Cognos Report Integrator listings if they were under one of a set of services we identified (see "* Surgery /*" in s_Cognos_Services table in CCMDB.accdb for list). However, we have no way to tell a patient under e.g. a surgery service who then went to a unit (or home) from a patient under such service who should have gone to ICU but didn't get there.

  • a lengthy discussion was had re. SICU ECIP's which we have not ever had, but could still in theory happen. I am confident that COGNOS would capture these under the critical care service, the likelihood of this happening is very small, as a patient who requires an emergent surgery would go to the OR and either SICU/PACU post op or to a surgical ward. COGNOS should capture the critical care surgical service. We routinely capture the SICU overflow in PACU through COGNOS, SICU has not overflow in the ER Lisa Kaita 11:08, 2024 March 12 (CDT)


How to identify ECIPs in Cognos EPR Report

As EMIP, but with a Critical Care service.

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