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The definition of a "Medicine patient" for the Regional Medicine Database is:
This page defines what would be a profile in the [[Medicine program]] portion of the database (see also [[Definition of a Critical Care Program Admission]]); it is relevant for [[Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients]] general data use. There are some differences in CC and Med collection, see [[ICU Curriculum]]/[[Medicine Curriculum]].
*admitted under a Medicine service attending physician. If patient doesn't meet this definition then we don't collect data and enter into the Medicine database.


*there are circumstances where other services "borrow" a Medicine bed for procedures or monitoring or testing but patient is not admitted under Medicine attending.
Each Medicine profile constitutes all care in ''any'' Internal Medicine location (see [[Boarding Loc]]) or Service (see [[Service tmp entry]]) at a given hospital with certain exceptions (see [[#Excluded patients]] further below in this article). Thus once a patient is admitted to an Internal Medicine service at a given hospital (regardless of where they are physically), a profile begins -- and the same profile includes all continuous direct transfers among Internal Medicine services and locations while under Medicine at that same hospital. For a transfer between hospitals a new database profile is started.


== Included patients ==
* Collection starts at [[Service tmp entry]] DtTm, ie possibly while still in ER.


*For Critical Care, see[[http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/ccmdb/index.php/Definition_of_an_ICU_admission#Discussion | Definition of an ICU admission]].
* The following situations '''ARE''' included for the Regional Medicine Database.


{{Discussion}}
=== Inclusion based on service ===
==DEC 8.08==
*Admitted under a Medicine service attending physician anywhere in the hospital (including, for example, if they are remaining in ED because there is no medicine ward bed yet). (see [[#excluded patients]])
From: Gail Hall
** includes "HSC Oncology / Medicine"
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:41 PM
To: Trish OstryzniukCc: Sheila Tagesen
Subject: High Observation Short stay patients
Trish:
We have recently began to except neuro patients into the high observation unit for a short stay from other facilities.They are being assessed by neuro and may be receiving diagnostic testing or procedures.It appeared that the patient we got last week was cared for by the high observation nurses.Vital signs and assessments were done. My question is do I count these "short stays" in my data? If so could I code the patient type as short stay or neuro short stay instead of medicine? At this point it is hard to say how many patients of this type we will get.If I code them and tag them we would be able to answer that question in the future. Can you please ask Dan Roberts if he wants data collection of these Neuro admits to H4H lots for stroke patients. These short stay patients are
They are neurology patients waiting for assessment and consultation but not under medicine service attending Dr.
Thanks, Gail Hall R.NData Collector for H4/H4H(HOBS)


==Dec 9.08==
=== Inclusion based on location ===
From: Trish Ostryzniuk
*Admitted to a core Medicine ward '''location''' but rather than being cared for by the regular ward team, the primary care service is
*Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:59 PM
** Nephrology
*To: Dan Roberts
** Neurology (includes "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" patients admitted to [[HSC HOBS]])
*Subject: RE: High Observation Short stay patients
** Oncology -- ''EXCEPT'' if admitted ONLY for chemotherapy (if complications occur and Medicine service takes over, admit the pt starting at medicine service acceptance)
*Dan
*When you enter such a patient into the Medicine Database, you should include the time in ED when they were on that service (Nephro, Neuro, Onc).
**I understand that you had approved allowing H4H to be used for neuro patient’s who come from other centers to be assessed by neuro service in High OBS?  Apparently these patients aren’t even admitted to the HSC when in high OBS while waiting for assessment. 
*For these inclusions based on location, once pt is transferred out of the Medicine ward location, we no longer follow the patient. (see [[#excluded patients]])
Do you want these patient include in the medicine database?
thanks


   
== Excluded patients ==
* The following situations '''ARE NOT''' included for the Regional Medicine Database:
** Oncology patients admitted only for chemotherapy. These are short stay patients with only nursing IPN entries.
** Nephrology, Oncology or Neurology patients whose primary care service is (respectively) nephrology, oncology or neurology -- who are NOT on a core Medicine ward location, ie they are admitted to an overflow medicine location
** Patients admitted to HSC_H6 or HSC_H7S (High OBs) under "HSC Internal Med / Respiratory"
** Patients who use a ward bed for a procedure but are NOT admitted to the Medicine service, and indeed these patients are usually not formally inpatients at all. Examples include a patient who is using a ward bed for: insertion of a central line; diagnostic endoscopy; dialysis.
**  "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" -- on HSC_H6, actually this fits into the above rules, as HSC_H6 is not a Medicine ward location.
** Interventional radiology pts admitted for an overnight procedure (not on [[Cognos EPR Report]] so easy to exclude)
** Exclude "HSC Oncology / Radiation"
** Exclude "IV infusion Administration"
** Exclude patients admitted to STB Internal Medicine/Respiratory service


=== Excluded service admissions can lead to missed records ===
There are scenarios in which a legitimate admission may be missed when [[Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients]]. If a patient's first location upon admission is one where we don't collect, the patient would be excluded from [[CSS]]. If the patient then moves to a location where we would collect them without changing services, this change will not show up in Cogonos since we already excluded the service admission. We have occasionally found these records when looking for other things, but some are likely getting through. We discussed this and could not think of a way to overcome this, so this is only to document that this can happen.


== End of a database profile ==
=== Bed holds ===
To see when a profile should continue vs new profile, see [[Bed holds]].


== Definitions relevant for historical data ==
Definitions over time are available at
* [[Special:History/{{PAGENAME}}]]


{{Discuss |
* We need to extract a summary of the definition details from the page history.
* We should set up a [[Record definition query in CFE]] to provide a clear way in [[CFE]] to treat historical, pre [[PatientFollow Project]], records in a way that is consistent with our current definition.
}}


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Latest revision as of 15:51, 30 July 2025

This page defines what would be a profile in the Medicine program portion of the database (see also Definition of a Critical Care Program Admission); it is relevant for Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients general data use. There are some differences in CC and Med collection, see ICU Curriculum/Medicine Curriculum.

Each Medicine profile constitutes all care in any Internal Medicine location (see Boarding Loc) or Service (see Service tmp entry) at a given hospital with certain exceptions (see #Excluded patients further below in this article). Thus once a patient is admitted to an Internal Medicine service at a given hospital (regardless of where they are physically), a profile begins -- and the same profile includes all continuous direct transfers among Internal Medicine services and locations while under Medicine at that same hospital. For a transfer between hospitals a new database profile is started.

Included patients

  • The following situations ARE included for the Regional Medicine Database.

Inclusion based on service

  • Admitted under a Medicine service attending physician anywhere in the hospital (including, for example, if they are remaining in ED because there is no medicine ward bed yet). (see #excluded patients)
    • includes "HSC Oncology / Medicine"

Inclusion based on location

  • Admitted to a core Medicine ward location but rather than being cared for by the regular ward team, the primary care service is
    • Nephrology
    • Neurology (includes "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" patients admitted to HSC HOBS)
    • Oncology -- EXCEPT if admitted ONLY for chemotherapy (if complications occur and Medicine service takes over, admit the pt starting at medicine service acceptance)
  • When you enter such a patient into the Medicine Database, you should include the time in ED when they were on that service (Nephro, Neuro, Onc).
  • For these inclusions based on location, once pt is transferred out of the Medicine ward location, we no longer follow the patient. (see #excluded patients)

Excluded patients

  • The following situations ARE NOT included for the Regional Medicine Database:
    • Oncology patients admitted only for chemotherapy. These are short stay patients with only nursing IPN entries.
    • Nephrology, Oncology or Neurology patients whose primary care service is (respectively) nephrology, oncology or neurology -- who are NOT on a core Medicine ward location, ie they are admitted to an overflow medicine location
    • Patients admitted to HSC_H6 or HSC_H7S (High OBs) under "HSC Internal Med / Respiratory"
    • Patients who use a ward bed for a procedure but are NOT admitted to the Medicine service, and indeed these patients are usually not formally inpatients at all. Examples include a patient who is using a ward bed for: insertion of a central line; diagnostic endoscopy; dialysis.
    • "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" -- on HSC_H6, actually this fits into the above rules, as HSC_H6 is not a Medicine ward location.
    • Interventional radiology pts admitted for an overnight procedure (not on Cognos EPR Report so easy to exclude)
    • Exclude "HSC Oncology / Radiation"
    • Exclude "IV infusion Administration"
    • Exclude patients admitted to STB Internal Medicine/Respiratory service

Excluded service admissions can lead to missed records

There are scenarios in which a legitimate admission may be missed when Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients. If a patient's first location upon admission is one where we don't collect, the patient would be excluded from CSS. If the patient then moves to a location where we would collect them without changing services, this change will not show up in Cogonos since we already excluded the service admission. We have occasionally found these records when looking for other things, but some are likely getting through. We discussed this and could not think of a way to overcome this, so this is only to document that this can happen.

End of a database profile

Bed holds

To see when a profile should continue vs new profile, see Bed holds.

Definitions relevant for historical data

Definitions over time are available at

  • We need to extract a summary of the definition details from the page history.
  • We should set up a Record definition query in CFE to provide a clear way in CFE to treat historical, pre PatientFollow Project, records in a way that is consistent with our current definition.
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