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*Code a procedure as [[Px_Type]] '''admit''' if it was:   
*Code a procedure as [[Px_Type]] '''admit''' if it was:   
**(a) Performed '''within 24 hrs''' BEFORE the [[Arrive DtTm]] '''AND'''  
**(a) Performed '''within 24 hrs''' BEFORE the [[Arrive DtTm]] '''AND'''  
**(b) Was '''causally''' related to the admission -- this is a judgement call, see the examples below
**(b) Was '''causally''' related to the admission -- this is a judgement call, see section and examples below
{{Discuss | who = Allan | question =  For CXR's and blood gases which we are counting only the acquired numbers, do we need to include these in the Admit Procedures? Allan clarified this and we do not include any procedures in the admit category unless they cause the diagnosis in some way.  My question is : some CCI list things may need to be put in the admit category, even if not causal:  one example of this is [[Isolation, infectious]].  Putting this in the admit category would mean the pt had it on admission, whereas, if acquired during their stay, then we put it in the acquired category.  The instructions need to be clarified to take this into account.--[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 10:45, 2018 September 7 (CDT)}}


=== Causally related ===
=== Causally related ===
It won't always be so clear if a procedure is related to the admission, and you may have to use your judgement.
*It won't always be so clear if a procedure is related to the admission, and you may have to use your judgement.
*VERY IMPORANT DISTICTION:  A procedure that simply '''identified''' the presence of a problem should not be considered to have ''caused'' the problem, and so should not be put into this category.
*While causally-related procedures will ''usually'' be invasive procedures, they do not NEED to be -- e.g. if a person is admitted for expressly [[Isolation, infectious]], this could be in this bin.
*And on occasion, even a diagnostic procedure could be causative --- e.g. a contrast-enhanced X-ray where the contrast caused anaphylaxis that led to ICU admission.  But this kind of example is the only kind of situation in which a non-invasive diagnostic procedure should be in this bin.  So, things we count, such as CXRs and blood gases, would NOT be in this bin, unless somehow they actually caused a problem that led to admission (e.g. blood gas puncture injured the artery, leading to a huge bleed for which they went to ICU).


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| full= *If a patient on the ''From'' ward/unit gets a bedside debridement which went well, and 10 minutes later develops respiratory distress and goes to a more acute ''To'' ward/unit because of that respiratory distress, then '''do not code that debridement at all''' for the ''To'' acute ward/unit because it does not seem to be related to the admission to the ''To'' ward/unit.
| full= *If a patient on the ''From'' ward/unit gets a bedside debridement which went well, and 10 minutes later develops respiratory distress and goes to a more acute ''To'' ward/unit because of that respiratory distress, then '''do not code that debridement at all''' for the ''To'' acute ward/unit because it does not seem to be related to the admission to the ''To'' ward/unit.
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{{Discuss | who = Allan | question = One might think of a diagnostic procedure as "causing" an admission by helping confirm a diagnosis, i.e. the px doesn't cause the patient to need admission, but it causes the physician to know the patient needs admission. Should those be coded as admit px then? Ttenbergen 19:47, 2018 August 6 (CDT)}}


=== Moved patients ===
=== Moved patients ===

Revision as of 12:14, 11 September 2018

This page explains when a CCI Procedure that is part of CCI Collection would be coded with Px Type Admit. The other option for type is Acquired Procedure.

Collection Instructions

  • Code a procedure as Px_Type admit if it was:
    • (a) Performed within 24 hrs BEFORE the Arrive DtTm AND
    • (b) Was causally related to the admission -- this is a judgement call, see section and examples below
  • It won't always be so clear if a procedure is related to the admission, and you may have to use your judgement.
  • VERY IMPORANT DISTICTION: A procedure that simply identified the presence of a problem should not be considered to have caused the problem, and so should not be put into this category.
  • While causally-related procedures will usually be invasive procedures, they do not NEED to be -- e.g. if a person is admitted for expressly Isolation, infectious, this could be in this bin.
  • And on occasion, even a diagnostic procedure could be causative --- e.g. a contrast-enhanced X-ray where the contrast caused anaphylaxis that led to ICU admission. But this kind of example is the only kind of situation in which a non-invasive diagnostic procedure should be in this bin. So, things we count, such as CXRs and blood gases, would NOT be in this bin, unless somehow they actually caused a problem that led to admission (e.g. blood gas puncture injured the artery, leading to a huge bleed for which they went to ICU).
example of causally related procedures   
  • If a patient on the From ward/unit gets a bedside debridement, during which he/she begins to hemorrhage profusely and is then transferred to the To acute ward/unit because of that hemorrhage, then code that procedure, as Px_Type = Admit.
  • Even diagnostic procedures can be causally related to an admission, if a complication occurred:
    • a contrast CT that led to contrast-induced anaphylaxis that was the reason for admission
    • a diagnostic upper endoscopy that caused an esophageal perforation that was the reason for admission.
example of procedure not causally related   
  • If a patient on the From ward/unit gets a bedside debridement which went well, and 10 minutes later develops respiratory distress and goes to a more acute To ward/unit because of that respiratory distress, then do not code that debridement at all for the To acute ward/unit because it does not seem to be related to the admission to the To ward/unit.

Moved patients

A procedure might be coded as an acquired on one ward and an admit on the next - the same as above applies.

example of procedures for moved patient   
  • Example: On Medicine ward patient got bedside debridement (so of course that procedure would be coded for that ward) and then began to hemorrhage which led to ICU transfer. In this case the debridement was closely associated with the admission to ICU and so would be coded as an "admit" procedure for the ICU record.
  • Example: On the other hand, if the ward patient got a bedside skin biopsy shortly before transfer to ICU, and the ICU transfer had nothing to do with the skin biopsy, then you would NOT record the biopsy in the ICU record.

Why within 24 hrs?

This was an arbitrary decision because we needed a cut-off.

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