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''For Critical Care, see [[Definition of an ICU_admission]]''
This page defines what would be a profile in the Medicine portion of the database (see also [[Definition of a Critical Care Laptop Admission]]); it is relevant for [[Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients]] general data use.


The definition of a "Medicine patient" for the Regional Medicine Database is:
Each Medicine profile constitutes all care in ''any'' Internal Medicine location (see [[Boarding Loc]]) or Service (see [[Service tmp entry]]) at a given hospital with certain exceptions (see [[#Excluded patients]] further below in this article). Thus once a patient is admitted to an Internal Medicine service at a given hospital (regardless of where they are physically), a profile begins -- and the same profile includes all continuous direct transfers among Internal Medicine services and locations while under Medicine at that same hospital. For a transfer between hospitals a new database profile is started.
*admitted under a Medicine service attending physician.  If patient doesn't meet this definition then we don't collect data and enter into the Medicine database.


Collection for medicine patients starts at [[Accept DtTm]] ie [[Accept_DtTm_field#Direct_Admissions.2FTransfers|possibly while in ER]].
== Included patients ==
* Collection starts at [[Service tmp entry]] DtTm, ie possibly while still in ER.


=== Include Neuro and Nephrology patients ===
* The following situations '''ARE''' included for the Regional Medicine Database.
We collect all the neuro patients per Dan Roberts instructions.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 13:42, 2015 July 8 (CDT), [[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 11:21, 2015 July 25 (CDT)
See also [[HSC Medicine Collection Guide]].
*I admit many to D5 under service of nephrology, neurology, oncology -[ward being a non-teaching medicine but those services continue to care for their  patient unless accepted by Dr Dowhanic or Arneja(who won't handle the HD population).--[[User:Llemoine|Llemoine]] 07:51, 2016 October 7 (CDT)


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=== Inclusion based on service ===
*Does something similar happen at STB or other hospitals? Ttenbergen 14:04, 2016 October 6 (CDT)
*Admitted under a Medicine service attending physician anywhere in the hospital (including, for example, if they are remaining in ED because there is no medicine ward bed yet). (see [[#excluded patients]])
**I do not do medicine all the time but I have never seen a pt under neurology or nephrology service admitted to the medicine wards here.  However they can be the sending service and they can be consulted. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:12, 2016 October 6 (CDT)
** includes "HSC Oncology / Medicine"
*** Anything similar for other subspecialties? Ttenbergen 14:15, 2016 October 6 (CDT)
****Yes, any specialialty can send a pt to medicine (like surgery, cardiology, etc), but from what I see, they are always admitted under the medicine service.  The only exception I have seen is Oncology where they admit a pt just for [[High dose chemotherapy as primary admit]] but our database does not include these patients (they are considered a bed borrow). --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 07:32, 2016 October 7 (CDT)


=== there is no minimum stay requirement ===
=== Inclusion based on location ===
There is no minimum stay requirement, if you can identify the admission, collect the patient.
*Admitted to a core Medicine ward '''location''' but rather than being cared for by the regular ward team, the primary care service is
(as discussed with Julie and Trish Ttenbergen 11:19, 2016 November 10 (CST))
** Nephrology
{{discussion}}
** Neurology (includes "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" patients admitted to [[HSC HOBS]])
*We were told years ago that the minimum stay was 20 minutes provided a set of vital signs were done.--[[User:CMarks|CMarks]] 14:17, 2016 November 14 (CST)
** Oncology -- ''EXCEPT'' if admitted ONLY for chemotherapy (if complications occur and Medicine service takes over, admit the pt starting at medicine service acceptance)
** We tried to figure out in the office where you might have heard that. Trish doesn't remember ever hearing that. Do you remember where you heard it? Confirmed in office again, and: '''definitely include even short stay patients'''.Ttenbergen 14:38, 2016 November 14 (CST)
*When you enter such a patient into the Medicine Database, you should include the time in ED when they were on that service (Nephro, Neuro, Onc).
*For these inclusions based on location, once pt is transferred out of the Medicine ward location, we no longer follow the patient. (see [[#excluded patients]])


== Special cases ==
== Excluded patients ==
See [[:Category:Overflow]] for various special cases, and whether they would be included or not.
* The following situations '''ARE NOT''' included for the Regional Medicine Database:
** Oncology patients admitted only for chemotherapy. These are short stay patients with only nursing IPN entries.
** Nephrology, Oncology or Neurology patients whose primary care service is (respectively) nephrology, oncology or neurology -- who are NOT on a core Medicine ward location, ie they are admitted to an overflow medicine location
** Patients admitted to HSC_H6 or HSC_H7S (High OBs) under "HSC Internal Med / Respiratory"
** Patients who use a ward bed for a procedure but are NOT admitted to the Medicine service, and indeed these patients are usually not formally inpatients at all.  Examples include a patient who is using a ward bed for: insertion of a central line; diagnostic endoscopy; dialysis.
**  "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" -- on HSC_H6, actually this fits into the above rules, as HSC_H6 is not a Medicine ward location.
** Interventional radiology pts admitted for an overnight procedure (not on [[Cognos EPR Report]] so easy to exclude)
** Exclude "HSC Oncology / Radiation"
** Exclude "IV infusion Administration"
** Exclude patients admitted to STB Internal Medicine/Respiratory service
 
=== Excluded service admissions can lead to missed records ===
There are scenarios in which a legitimate admission may be missed when [[Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients]]. If a patient's first location upon admission is one where we don't collect, the patient would be excluded from [[CSS]]. If the patient then moves to a location where we would collect them without changing services, this change will not show up in Cogonos since we already excluded the service admission. We have occasionally found these records when looking for other things, but some are likely getting through. We discussed this and could not think of a way to overcome this, so this is only to document that this can happen.
 
== End of a database profile ==
=== Bed holds ===
To see when a profile should continue vs new profile, see [[Bed holds]].  


== Related Articles ==
== Related Articles ==
* [[Definition of an ICU admission]].
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[[Category: Medicine Elements]]
[[Category: Admit/Discharge | *]]
[[Category: Admit/Discharge]]
[[Category: Overflow]]

Latest revision as of 14:54, 2023 November 3

This page defines what would be a profile in the Medicine portion of the database (see also Definition of a Critical Care Laptop Admission); it is relevant for Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients general data use.

Each Medicine profile constitutes all care in any Internal Medicine location (see Boarding Loc) or Service (see Service tmp entry) at a given hospital with certain exceptions (see #Excluded patients further below in this article). Thus once a patient is admitted to an Internal Medicine service at a given hospital (regardless of where they are physically), a profile begins -- and the same profile includes all continuous direct transfers among Internal Medicine services and locations while under Medicine at that same hospital. For a transfer between hospitals a new database profile is started.

Included patients

  • The following situations ARE included for the Regional Medicine Database.

Inclusion based on service

  • Admitted under a Medicine service attending physician anywhere in the hospital (including, for example, if they are remaining in ED because there is no medicine ward bed yet). (see #excluded patients)
    • includes "HSC Oncology / Medicine"

Inclusion based on location

  • Admitted to a core Medicine ward location but rather than being cared for by the regular ward team, the primary care service is
    • Nephrology
    • Neurology (includes "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" patients admitted to HSC HOBS)
    • Oncology -- EXCEPT if admitted ONLY for chemotherapy (if complications occur and Medicine service takes over, admit the pt starting at medicine service acceptance)
  • When you enter such a patient into the Medicine Database, you should include the time in ED when they were on that service (Nephro, Neuro, Onc).
  • For these inclusions based on location, once pt is transferred out of the Medicine ward location, we no longer follow the patient. (see #excluded patients)

Excluded patients

  • The following situations ARE NOT included for the Regional Medicine Database:
    • Oncology patients admitted only for chemotherapy. These are short stay patients with only nursing IPN entries.
    • Nephrology, Oncology or Neurology patients whose primary care service is (respectively) nephrology, oncology or neurology -- who are NOT on a core Medicine ward location, ie they are admitted to an overflow medicine location
    • Patients admitted to HSC_H6 or HSC_H7S (High OBs) under "HSC Internal Med / Respiratory"
    • Patients who use a ward bed for a procedure but are NOT admitted to the Medicine service, and indeed these patients are usually not formally inpatients at all. Examples include a patient who is using a ward bed for: insertion of a central line; diagnostic endoscopy; dialysis.
    • "HSC Internal Med / Neurology" -- on HSC_H6, actually this fits into the above rules, as HSC_H6 is not a Medicine ward location.
    • Interventional radiology pts admitted for an overnight procedure (not on Cognos EPR Report so easy to exclude)
    • Exclude "HSC Oncology / Radiation"
    • Exclude "IV infusion Administration"
    • Exclude patients admitted to STB Internal Medicine/Respiratory service

Excluded service admissions can lead to missed records

There are scenarios in which a legitimate admission may be missed when Using Cognos2 to keep track of patients. If a patient's first location upon admission is one where we don't collect, the patient would be excluded from CSS. If the patient then moves to a location where we would collect them without changing services, this change will not show up in Cogonos since we already excluded the service admission. We have occasionally found these records when looking for other things, but some are likely getting through. We discussed this and could not think of a way to overcome this, so this is only to document that this can happen.

End of a database profile

Bed holds

To see when a profile should continue vs new profile, see Bed holds.

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