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*** tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)
*** tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)


{{discussAllan|How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)
{{discussAllan|
*How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)
**AG REPLY:  I'm confused about what is meant here.  These procedures would be coded as usual for CCI chapter 1.  If we want, we could make a picklist for them instead.
**AG REPLY:  I'm confused about what is meant here.  These procedures would be coded as usual for CCI chapter 1.  If we want, we could make a picklist for them instead.
*** Do you mean the ones that are not linked are all component codes, ie made up out of [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]
*** Do you mean the ones that are not linked are all component codes, ie made up out of [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]
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== Questions? ==
== Questions? ==
{{discussAllan | various CCI questions, at least some can likely be answered on the spot, others might need to go to task }}
{{discussAllan | various CCI questions, at least some can likely be answered on the spot, others might need to go to task}}


=== additional codes? ===
=== additional codes? ===
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* ... It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want.  ... --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)
* ... It does not even include regular GI scopes which are very common and it is on your list of things you want.  ... --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 11:41, 2018 March 7 (CST)
** The GI Scopes are currently on the [[CCI Component]] list only and would be coded as [[Inspection, Exploration]]. The scope part would have been part 3 (how it was done) an we no longer code that.  
** The GI Scopes are currently on the [[CCI Component]] list only and would be coded as [[Inspection, Exploration]]. The scope part would have been part 3 (how it was done) an we no longer code that.  
{{DiscussTask | CCI codes GI scope as (body part), [[Inspection, Exploration]]. So, won't be able to identify those from laparoscopic surgery. Do we care? Ttenbergen 19:00, 2018 March 22 (CDT) }}
{{DiscussTask | CCI codes GI scope as (body part), [[Inspection, Exploration]]. So, won't be able to identify those from laparoscopic surgery. Do we care? Ttenbergen 19:00, 2018 March 22 (CDT)}}


*{{discussion}} For upper GI scope, should it be coded diagnostic/therapeutic interventions on "stomach" or "small intestine"? (since duodenum is first part of small intestine). Also, if biopsy is done with inspection and exploration, but no interventions like clipping or to control bleeding, should that be coded as "biopsy" or "inspection, exploration"? --[[User:Malcudia|Malcudia]] 10:13, 2018 April 11 (CDT)
*{{discussion}} For upper GI scope, should it be coded diagnostic/therapeutic interventions on "stomach" or "small intestine"? (since duodenum is first part of small intestine). Also, if biopsy is done with inspection and exploration, but no interventions like clipping or to control bleeding, should that be coded as "biopsy" or "inspection, exploration"? --[[User:Malcudia|Malcudia]] 10:13, 2018 April 11 (CDT)
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=== counts, and moving labs to CCI ===
=== counts, and moving labs to CCI ===
{{DiscussTask}}
{{DiscussTask | Lab counts}}
* Also, I was not aware that we are moving all our count items to CCI and having to put a date for all blood products, CXR, echos, etc. This will definitely be more work than just counting the number of each.  Who is requesting dates for every single item?  Although I see almost all our count items here, I do not see Abdominal Ultrasounds which we currently count. Also there are additional diagnostic procedures on this list that we previously did not count.  At one time we did not add other diagnostic counts because the data was not requested.  Is all this additional data being requested now?  (ie:  EEG's, abdominal xrays, nuclear scans, urodynamic study, cardiac stress test, pulmonary function tests, etc).  We used to go the steering committee for requests for additional data collection items, has this now changed?
* Also, I was not aware that we are moving all our count items to CCI and having to put a date for all blood products, CXR, echos, etc. This will definitely be more work than just counting the number of each.  Who is requesting dates for every single item?  Although I see almost all our count items here, I do not see Abdominal Ultrasounds which we currently count. Also there are additional diagnostic procedures on this list that we previously did not count.  At one time we did not add other diagnostic counts because the data was not requested.  Is all this additional data being requested now?  (ie:  EEG's, abdominal xrays, nuclear scans, urodynamic study, cardiac stress test, pulmonary function tests, etc).  We used to go the steering committee for requests for additional data collection items, has this now changed?


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===== ABG/VBG counts tests in CCI & concerns =====
===== ABG/VBG counts tests in CCI & concerns =====


* {{DiscussAllan | repeated  ABG/VBG counts - to many rows of data in CCI & lots of rows to scroll down to check what has been entered.  time consuming.}}
{{DiscussAllan | repeated  ABG/VBG counts - to many rows of data in CCI & lots of rows to scroll down to check what has been entered.  time consuming.}}
*I have tested a few pts and included ABG/VBG counts.   
*I have tested a few pts and included ABG/VBG counts.   
*What is this being used for?   
*What is this being used for?   
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* {{DiscussAllan | In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it.-Laura}}   
{{DiscussAllan | In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it.-Laura}}   
*For example:  
*For example:  
one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks  
one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks  
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==Date Integrity Checks ==
==Date Integrity Checks ==
==={{CCMDB Data Integrity Checks|ready to implement|ready to implement}} - Must have at least one entry ===  
==={{CCMDB Data Integrity Checks|ready to implement}} - Must have at least one entry ===  
{{discussion}}
{{discussion}}
Will need to be implemented: to click complete:  
Will need to be implemented: to click complete:  
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==={{CCMDB Data Integrity Checks|ready to implement|ready to implement}} - CCI Procedure vs [[Previous Location]] Cross Check ===
==={{CCMDB Data Integrity Checks|ready to implement}} - CCI Procedure vs [[Previous Location]] Cross Check ===
If from OR or PACU, must have at least 1 CCI
If from OR or PACU, must have at least 1 CCI