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'''<mark>This project is not live yet, do not follow the instructions to stop the old collection yet. I hope to have this set up to start collecting with the new instructions Dec1. For now, continue to use the instructions in [[ICUotherService]]. '''[[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 14:27, 26 September 2025 (CDT) </mark> }}
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== Background ==
== Background ==
 
This project encodes when an admission "''should have been''" with a different Critical Care service than where it actually ended up.




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* Could you confirm that there are no changes required to the following pages? We discussed that details about them might change as part of all this. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 14:44, 23 December 2025 (CST)
* Could you confirm that there are no changes required to the following pages? We discussed that details about them might change as part of all this. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 14:44, 23 December 2025 (CST)
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* Can these only be at the same site as the record? If so that may be a relevant cross-check.  
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* We need to confirm that the change is properly indexed and contextualized on [[2025-05 Revision of concept around ICUotherService]].
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== Data Use ==
* see [[ICU Service Location Discrepancy]]


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Revision as of 16:20, 23 December 2025

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  • This project is not live yet, do not follow the instructions to stop the old collection yet.
  • Planned go-live is 2025-01-01
  • For now, continue to use the instructions in ICUotherService

Background

This project encodes when an admission "should have been" with a different Critical Care service than where it actually ended up.


  • It is to be used when the ICU service a patient is actually on (MICU, SICU, IICU, ICMS, CICU, Grace ICU) is different from the service the patients should be on. This most common reason for this to happen is bed capacity issues.
Example:   
    • e.g. patient admitted from ED ventilated with severe pneumonia, should go to MICU but it is full, so goes to SICU and is taken care of by the SICU service. Here Service/Location is SICU and Intended1stSrvc is MICU
    • e.g. patient in ED at Grace and should go to Grace ICU but it's full, so goes to HSC MICU. Here Service/Location is MICU and Intended1stSrvc is Grace ICU. This example shows that the Intended1stSrvc can be at a different hospital altogether.
  • This variable should be left BLANK when the ICU service the patient is on is the one they should be on -- i.e. only fill it in when there is an Intended1stSrvc that is different from the first service they are actually on (i.e. what's in Service/Location)
  • Along with Boarding Loc, Service Location and Intended1stSrvc allow clear identification of all types of ICU boarding
    • those downloaded entries do not actually correspond the the true 6 ICU services that exist (as of 2025) and so are confusing, as they are things like "HSC Critical Care/Medicine A" or "HSC Critical Care/Plastics"
    • as Service tmp entry is downloaded from Cognos, this will no longer occur
  • As we create a new ICU profile (record) when the ICU service changes, each time a new ICU profile is created, collectors will need to consider Intended1stSrvc anew
    • although we considered carrying over the prior value of Intended1stSrvc when a patient is transferred ICU-to-ICU, we decided against this as it creates other ambiguities
  • Here is the most complex subtlety of this issue of what service a patient "should be on"
    • It can change during the course of the episode of ICU care (across ICUs, or within a single ICU). Sometimes such a change might be clearcut (e.g. due to occurrence of a surgical procedure) but other times the fact that the service the patient should be on changes is just within the heads of the attending physicians. Because of this uncertainty we explicitly decided NOT to try and track the service a patient should be on as time goes by, but only upon initiation of an ICU profile, which is why this variable is called "Intended1stSrvc"

Data Collection Instructions

  • Code it as the ICU service that the patient SHOULD HAVE BEEN under upon initial admission to the ICU Service in this hospital, i.e. at the start of this record
    • Leave it blank if the very first day in ICU in that hospital, the patient was, in fact under the "correct" ICU service, i.e. the service that should have been taking care of the patient -- and as this is the majority of all ICU records, this variable will usually be left blank.
Example:   
  • Patient with acute MI admitted via ED. He should have been under the ACCU service in ACCU but ACCU was full. So he was admitted to ICMS instead under the ICMS Service. Thus here Intended1stSrvc = ACCU.

Transfer to Another ICU Service


Things to resolve

{{Discuss| Things we need to resolve:

  • We need to review anything that links to ICUotherService, and anything that page lists to. The "anything that links there" can be accessed by expanding the "related articles (expand)" at the bottom of ICUotherService. Ttenbergen 10:59, 25 September 2025 (CDT)

Data collection

Data Entry Instructions

  • Use tmp fields:
  • Project: Intended1stSrvc
  • Item: one of (HSC-MICU, HSC-SICU, HSC-IICU, STB-MICU, STB-CICU, STB-ACCU, GH-CC)
  • all other fields are not used for this project

Special Cases

Service admissions where the situation changes part way through the record

  • This Intended1stSrvc assumes a whole stay on the borrowed service. How about the case where there is only partial stay being taken care by borrowed service and then the patient now becomes a legit patient of that service. Example, Intended1stSrvc is STB ICSM taken care by ACCU service (May 24,2023 13:17) boarding at ACCU bed , then by May 26,2023 15:40 became an ACCU patient taken care by ACCU in same ACCU bed until discharge to ward June 5,2023 16:22. This is currently just one record. For me to breakdown the days, there is a need to enter the start dttm and/or end dttm aside from the intended unit. OR Should this case be two records, thus there is no need to enter dttm?--JMojica 17:31, 18 December 2025 (CST)
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  • There is a question that may be related to this on ICUotherService for you, could you have a look? Ttenbergen 14:44, 23 December 2025 (CST)
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  • 2025-12-18 JALT - We may want to discuss the discrepancy of our naming and its implications with the recipients of our reports and possibly the team that reports similar out of EPR. Ttenbergen 14:44, 23 December 2025 (CST)
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