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=== counts, and moving labs to CCI ===

~~{{discussion~~}}

[[Discuss@Task}}

* Also, I was not aware that we are moving all our count items to CCI and having to put a date for all blood products, CXR, echos, etc. This will definitely be more work than just counting the number of each. Who is requesting dates for every single item? Although I see almost all our count items here, I do not see Abdominal Ultrasounds which we currently count. Also there are additional diagnostic procedures on this list that we previously did not count. At one time we did not add other diagnostic counts because the data was not requested. Is all this additional data being requested now? (ie: EEG's, abdominal xrays, nuclear scans, urodynamic study, cardiac stress test, pulmonary function tests, etc). We used to go the steering committee for requests for additional data collection items, has this now changed?

* In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it. For example, one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission. It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI. It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs. If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer. No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab. It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)

* {{DiscussAllan | repeated ABG/VBG counts - to many rows of data in CCI & lots of rows to scroll down to check what has been entered. time consuming.}}

*I have tested a few pts and included ABG/VBG counts.

*What is this being used for?

*Is the counting necessary? This is a time Counting is a time consuming task, besides counting now also entering dates.

**Example: I had 2 pts that had 50-100 ABG/VBG's to count and enter dates for. I found there was too many rows of data in addition to the CCI being collected, so lots to scroll through to check what I had entered. [[p:Joanna Velasco]]

* {{DiscussAllan | In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it.-Laura}}

*For example:

one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks

*on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission.

*It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI.

*It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs.

*If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer. No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab. It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)

**Laura, we discussed your testing at task. A question came up in regards to what method did you use to enter these 86 ABG's?

***Were you counting number of ABG PER day and then enter that count into CCI and assigning a date? or

***Did you go from EPR to paper then into CCMDB CCI?

***Did you use the + button? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]]

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 === counts, and moving labs to CCI ===
-{{discussion}}
+[[Discuss@Task}}
 * Also, I was not aware that we are moving all our count items to CCI and having to put a date for all blood products, CXR, echos, etc. This will definitely be more work than just counting the number of each.  Who is requesting dates for every single item?  Although I see almost all our count items here, I do not see Abdominal Ultrasounds which we currently count. Also there are additional diagnostic procedures on this list that we previously did not count.  At one time we did not add other diagnostic counts because the data was not requested.  Is all this additional data being requested now?  (ie:  EEG's, abdominal xrays, nuclear scans, urodynamic study, cardiac stress test, pulmonary function tests, etc).  We used to go the steering committee for requests for additional data collection items, has this now changed?
-* In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it.   For example, one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission.   It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI.  It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs.  If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer.   No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab.   It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this.  --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)
+* {{DiscussAllan | repeated  ABG/VBG counts - to many rows of data in CCI & lots of rows to scroll down to check what has been entered.  time consuming.}}
+*I have tested a few pts and included ABG/VBG counts.
+*What is this being used for?
+*Is the counting necessary? This is a time Counting is a time consuming task, besides counting now also entering dates.
+**Example:  I had 2 pts that had 50-100 ABG/VBG's to count and enter dates for. I found there was too many rows of data in addition to the CCI being collected, so lots to scroll through to check what I had entered.  [[p:Joanna Velasco]]
+* {{DiscussAllan | In some limited testing of the entering of counted labs in CCI, I find that it takes considerably longer to do this vs just counting the number of each item as we currently do it.-Laura}}
+*For example:
+one patient that was in ICMS for 3 weeks
+*on ECMO had 86 ABG's done in their admission.
+*It took me 15 minutes to just enter the ABG's in CCI.
+*It only takes one minute to enter this item in the old count method off of EPR labs.
+*If I spent the time to enter all the blood products, tests and labs, etc. It would have taken much longer.   No one has that much extra time in their day to spend it putting in these CCI entries for every lab.   It may work for short stay patients with minimal labs and procedures but not for more complex patients. We need to discuss this. --[[User:LKolesar|LKolesar]] 14:13, 2018 April 20 (CDT)
+{{Discussion}}
+**Laura, we discussed your testing at task.  A question came up in regards to what method did you use to enter these 86 ABG's?
+***Were you counting number of ABG PER day and then enter that count into CCI and assigning a date? or
+***Did you go from EPR to paper then into CCMDB CCI?
+***Did you use the + button? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]]
 ==Date Integrity Checks ==