CCI Collection: Difference between revisions

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*2. Include ''all '''[[CCI procedures we don't code|codable]]''' therapeutic procedures'' done '''using an endoscope''' (in or out of the patient's unit) - whether inserted through an orifice, incision or wound.

*3. In addition to (1) and (2) code the following (and '''only''' the following) therapeutic procedures done in the patient’s unit - but '''only the FIRST DAY it was done''' during the patient’s stay on that unit {{discussion}} Tina will need to add a hint to CCMDB to list these... is the list complete at this point? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 18:15, 2018 April 5 (CDT) :

**~~arterial catheter placement~~

** Picklist unit items

**PEG

*** [[Hemodialysis (intermittent)]]

**[[Hemodialysis (intermittent)]]

*** [[Peritoneal dialysis]]

**[[Peritoneal dialysis]]

*** [[Plasmapheresis]]

**[[Plasmapheresis]]

** Component list unit items

**non-invasive mechanical ventilation - includes CPAP, BiPAP, and classic NIV (where a mask is connected to a regular ventilator)

*** arterial catheter placement

**debridement (which in [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]?)

*** PEG

**tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)

*** non-invasive mechanical ventilation - includes CPAP, BiPAP, and classic NIV (where a mask is connected to a regular ventilator)

{{discussAllan|How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}

*** debridement (which in [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]?)

*** tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)

{{discussAllan|How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)

**AG REPLY: I'm confused about what is meant here. These procedures would be coded as usual for CCI chapter 1. If we want, we could make a picklist for them instead.

*** ~~don't know if we need a picklist~~, ~~just could not figure~~ out ~~how to code that. I want~~ to ~~make sure that searching for the term brings up the wiki page. Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)~~

*** Do you mean the ones that are not linked are all component codes, ie made up out of [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]

}}

{{discussAllan|

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** we will need to discuss that in the related article, for now we have no code for this at all. Ttenbergen 14:01, 2018 March 20 (CDT)

**AG REPLY --- of course this can be coded in Chap 1 of CCI. Again could include in a picklist. And it'd be coded the 1st time it's used in the patient's unit regardless of who owns the machine.

*** ''How'' can it be coded? It would need to be a combination of a [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and a [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]. Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}

*** ''How'' can it be coded? It would need to be a combination of a [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] ([[Therapeutic Intervention on Lung]]? [[Therapeutic Intervention on Total Body]]?) and a [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]] (can't think which I would use...). Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}

=== Repeated procedures ===

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 *2. Include ''all '''[[CCI procedures we don't code|codable]]''' therapeutic procedures'' done '''using an endoscope''' (in or out of the patient's unit) - whether inserted through an orifice, incision or wound.
 *3. In addition to (1) and (2) code the following (and '''only''' the following) therapeutic procedures done in the patient’s unit - but '''only the FIRST DAY it was done''' during the patient’s stay on that unit {{discussion}} Tina will need to add a hint to CCMDB to list these... is the list complete at this point? [[User:TOstryzniuk|Trish Ostryzniuk]] 18:15, 2018 April 5 (CDT) :
-**arterial catheter placement
+** Picklist unit items
-**PEG
+*** [[Hemodialysis (intermittent)]]
-**[[Hemodialysis (intermittent)]]
+*** [[Peritoneal dialysis]]
-**[[Peritoneal dialysis]]
+*** [[Plasmapheresis]]
-**[[Plasmapheresis]]
+** Component list unit items
-**non-invasive mechanical ventilation - includes CPAP, BiPAP, and classic NIV (where a mask is connected to a regular ventilator)
+*** arterial catheter placement
-**debridement (which in [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]?)
+*** PEG
-**tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)
+*** non-invasive mechanical ventilation - includes CPAP, BiPAP, and classic NIV (where a mask is connected to a regular ventilator)
-{{discussAllan|How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}
+*** debridement (which in [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]?)
+*** tracheostomy placement (i.e. done bedside) (ie [[Therapeutic Intervention on Trachea]] and then what, [[Installation of External Appliance]]?)
+{{discussAllan|How would I code the items above that are not linked? Could not find procedures for these... Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)
 **AG REPLY:  I'm confused about what is meant here.  These procedures would be coded as usual for CCI chapter 1.  If we want, we could make a picklist for them instead.
-*** don't know if we need a picklist, just could not figure out how to code that. I want to make sure that searching for the term brings up the wiki page. Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)
+*** Do you mean the ones that are not linked are all component codes, ie made up out of [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]]
+}}
 {{discussAllan|
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 ** we will need to discuss that in the related article, for now we have no code for this at all. Ttenbergen 14:01, 2018 March 20 (CDT)
 **AG REPLY --- of course this can be coded in Chap 1 of CCI.  Again could include in a picklist.  And it'd be coded the 1st time it's used in the patient's unit regardless of who owns the machine.
-*** ''How'' can it be coded? It would need to be a combination of a [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] and a [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]].  Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}
+*** ''How'' can it be coded? It would need to be a combination of a [[CCI component 1 codes - what organ was something done to]] ([[Therapeutic Intervention on Lung]]? [[Therapeutic Intervention on Total Body]]?) and a [[CCI component 2 codes - what was done]] (can't think which I would use...).  Ttenbergen 15:10, 2018 April 5 (CDT)}}
 === Repeated procedures ===