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Ttenbergen (talk | contribs) →Data Collection: removed sublist of only some charlson dxs since actually all of them are used for Charlson_nh |
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|*Charlson categories are provided but the CCMDB Script model only includes MI, Pulmonary, Connective, Renal | |*Charlson categories are provided but the CCMDB Script model only includes MI, Pulmonary, Connective, Renal | ||
** It also contains the full score as part of Charlson_nh. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:15, 25 January 2025 (CST) | ** It also contains the full score as part of Charlson_nh. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:15, 25 January 2025 (CST) | ||
*** correct, there are selected subcategories and also FULL CHARLSON SCORE for those from Nursing Home. --[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 09:29, 27 January 2025 (CST) | |||
** I think "connective" became "Rheumatic disease" in ICd10, right? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 16:41, 24 January 2025 (CST) | ** I think "connective" became "Rheumatic disease" in ICd10, right? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 16:41, 24 January 2025 (CST) | ||
*** Yes it refers to Connective Tissue Disease-Rheumatic Disease. --[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 09:29, 27 January 2025 (CST) | |||
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**NH (Nursing Home) - these data are from the tmp Overstay and the NH start dates from Manitoba Health which DR Roberts requested. we do not have the [[Pre acute living situation]] at that time but I agree just to use the [[Pre acute living situation]] . When I Have looked at the CCMDB script I noticed that NH includes PCH and Chronic Health Facility, is this correct? | **NH (Nursing Home) - these data are from the tmp Overstay and the NH start dates from Manitoba Health which DR Roberts requested. we do not have the [[Pre acute living situation]] at that time but I agree just to use the [[Pre acute living situation]] . When I Have looked at the CCMDB script I noticed that NH includes PCH and Chronic Health Facility, is this correct? | ||
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* ADLmean_nh - in the CCMDB Script it is written -- Adlmean_nh {{=}} (ADLScore - 12)*(from a nursing home), what does 12 mean? | * ADLmean_nh - in the CCMDB Script it is written -- Adlmean_nh {{=}} (ADLScore - 12)*(from a nursing home), what does 12 mean? | ||
** Very good question. The function adl_sc used to get the individual scores just generates a score of 0, 3 or 6, or -1 if given bad input. That doesn't explain why -12. And I can't imagine why this would be. But it's consistent between two functions, so unlikely to be just a finger fumble. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:15, 25 January 2025 (CST) | ** Very good question. The function adl_sc used to get the individual scores just generates a score of 0, 3 or 6, or -1 if given bad input. That doesn't explain why -12. And I can't imagine why this would be. But it's consistent between two functions, so unlikely to be just a finger fumble. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 19:15, 25 January 2025 (CST) | ||
*** looks like '''ADLmean''' does not imply average of the 6 individual ADL categories (e.g. total ADL SCore/6) but (TOTAL ADL Score -12). I'm guessing here, maybe 12 is the Grand Mean of total ADL and Leigh Anne is trying to evaluate the deviation of the individual data point from the mean of the dataset of those from Nursing Home . --[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 09:29, 27 January 2025 (CST) | |||
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Revision as of 10:29, 27 January 2025
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| Active?: | planned |
| Program: | Med |
| Requestor: | Dan Roberts |
| Collection start: | within the next few weeks "within the next few weeks" contains an extrinsic dash or other characters that are invalid for a date interpretation. |
| Collection end: | continuous "continuous" contains an extrinsic dash or other characters that are invalid for a date interpretation. |
Not live yet!
Data Collection
For any medicine record, enter the Minimal dataset +
- ADLs (ADL General Collection Information)
- Pre acute living situation - to know if they came from a Personal Care Home or Chronic Health Facility
- Province (although we could use the Postal Code instead)
- Glasgow Coma Scale
- any Admit Diagnoses contributing to the Charlson Comorbidities in ICD10 codes of Chronic pulmonary disease, Congestive heart failure, Rheumatic disease or Renal disease(as generated using same mechanism as s_ICD10_Charlson_Comorbids query; let's not use a separate list for this)
- Admit Diagnosis or Comorbid Diagnosis of Dementia:
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- Previous Location if that is still what we want to use for "from out of town" now that we have Postal Code.
Generation of data (will be moved before go-live)
- In the generation of data, I have used the following:
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- NH (Nursing Home) - these data are from the tmp Overstay and the NH start dates from Manitoba Health which DR Roberts requested. we do not have the Pre acute living situation at that time but I agree just to use the Pre acute living situation . When I Have looked at the CCMDB script I noticed that NH includes PCH and Chronic Health Facility, is this correct?
- ADL score - I have used the 0,3,6 values (same ADL as in ALERT score)
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- same with Adlmean_age = (ADLScore - 12)*(age), what does 12 mean?
- Charlson_nh = (Charlson score)*(from a nursing home) -- this is clear. --JMojica 13:53, 24 January 2025 (CST)
Data Entry Instructions
will add these as we come closer to implementing, but it will be a button again
Sources
- for green, a form TBD
- rest: as usual
<details?>
<clarifications, usually come up during first few days of collection>
Special Cases
Data Use
This data is being collected as for Project Overstay2.
Consistency Checks
- we will need to re-apply what was set up before or set up new ones.
Data Integrity Checks (automatic list)
none found