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=== Transfer Ready ===
== Collection instructions ==
*The status of "transfer ready" is about the date/time of an '''intent''' to transfer a patient to '''LOWER''' level of care in the [[Level of care hierarchy]] if there was an available bed there. Whether or not the patient actually moves does not matter, just that at some point there was an intent to move the pt. It also does not matter whether after such a determination the care team changed their minds about such a desired transfer.
=== What is Transfer Ready ===
*Obviously we don't always know the team's ''intentions'', but if they do write them down, then '''use that info'''.
* The status of "transfer ready" is about the date/time of an '''intent''' to transfer a patient to '''lower''' level of care in the [[Level of care hierarchy]] if there was a bed available. Whether or not the patient actually moves does not matter, just that at some point there was an intent to move the pt. It also does not matter whether after such a determination the care team changed their minds about such a desired transfer.
**In making this delineation, except as for the exceptions below, only consider a clearly written intent that the team now desires the patient to be transferred to such a lower level of care.   
* Obviously we don't always know the team's ''intentions'', but if they do write them down, then '''use that info'''.
**Do not overinterpret what the team writes, e.g. do not code this if they just write "medically stable" but do not also indicate the actual desire/intent to transfer the patient.
** In making this delineation, except as for the exceptions listed immediately below, only consider a clearly written intent that the team now desires the patient to be transferred to such a lower level of care.   
*EXCEPTIONS:
*** In particular, when a ward patient is transferred (e.g. home) without any notes stating the team’s intention to do so in advance or even an order to discharge, collectors ''should '''not''' attempt to make educated guesses'' from the notes of when the patient was ''probably'' clinically ready to leave and the checkbox is checked.
**In an ICU, take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:
***care is stepped down to '''ward frequency''' (q4hrs or less) of vitals AND off '''all''' forms of life support except possibly intermittent dialysis
***[[HSC_IICU]] consult is written
***patient is made '''[[ACP C|ACP-C]]'''
**In a ward, take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:
***order is written to change all iv meds to po AND remove monitoring
***patient is made '''[[ACP C|ACP-C]]'''


=== Matching up Boarding Locs and TrDtTms ===
See [[Level of care hierarchy]] for further information.
{{DiscussTask |
* Pam had a promising suggestion: "Or are data collectors to enter a matching count similar to combo codes?" - we could use the integer field of pairs of Transfer Ready and Boarding Locs to be able to match them. Should we do that? If you have concerns please post them here, else this will change likely when I am back from vacation early March. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 15:49, 2021 February 10 (CST)
}}
 
=== Potential change ===
{{Discuss |
* We discussed at [[Task Team Meeting - Rolling Agenda and Minutes|Task]] that it might be easier to have different dropdowns as "item" entry instead of manually populating the comment. I think that's a good idea but wanted to give people a chance to shout "NOOOOO". So if you have concerns please post them here, else this will change likely when I am back from vacation early March. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 15:49, 2021 February 10 (CST)
**'''If we do this I need to also remove the automatically added item from the [["Make loc" button]] so no one forgets to enter this. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 09:31, 2021 March 10 (CST)
}}
 
* to make a smoother transition, is there any way for a Transfer Ready Dt/Tm line to automatically be put in when we enter a new Boarding Loc? [[User:Surbanski|Surbanski]] 12:57, 2021 February 12 (CST)
** Implemented as of [[CCMDB.accdb Change Log 2021#2021-03-04]]:  if the Boarding loc is started by clicking on a line in the Cognos Unit listing the TrDtTm line will also be added. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 10:48, 2021 March 4 (CST)
 
==== What if the pt ends up transferred to a higher level of care ====
'''The original transfer {{PAGENAME}} does not change. '''
{{Collapsable
| always= Expand for details why
| full= 
It might '''seem''' that a patient who was transfer ready but then moves to a higher level of care should be excluded, since they did not actually get transferred to a lower level of care. However, when the patient was deemed transfer ready, additional time in the ward was "wasted time" - if we could have sent them elsewhere we would have. If the patient later crashes, that doesn't make it not-wasted time - they could have crashed anywhere. So the interpretation that a pt moving to a higher level of care after transfer ready is not wasted time is not right. We discussed this repeatedly at task and steering meetings. The only way this makes sense is if it is done by intent.
}}
 
== Data Collection Instructions ==
*As of February 2021, there will be a transfer-ready entry for each and every boarding location.  This entry takes 1 of 2 possible forms: 
**If while in a given location the care team writes that they intend (as above) to transfer the patient to a lower level of care, then the entry is the date/time that they first indicate this intention.
**If while in a given location the care team never writes such an intention, then instead of entering the date/time, collectors should indicate this by clicking the check box in this field.
*Thus, it is NOT true that every actual transfer to another physical location has a transfer ready date/time entered.
*And of course there should only be an actual date/time entered if the notes indicate the intent (as above) to send the patient to a LOWER level of care.
*What if a patient is clearly written as transfer-ready to a lower level, and then while in the same location he/she is written as transfer-ready to an EVEN LOWER level (e.g. home)? --- in this case there is no need to enter the 2nd of these transfer-ready events, i.e. the 1st of them suffice.
*For '''each [[Boarding Loc]]'''  entry (incl the original ER one, if present), enter the following:
**Project: '''Transfer Ready DtTm'''
**Item: '''Transfer Ready DtTm'''
**Transfer Ready Date: Date as defined in section [[#Transfer Ready]] above
**Transfer Ready Time: Time as defined in section [[#Transfer Ready]] above
**checkbox: '''to be checked only if a transfer ready date never became available'''
**comment (under 'q'):
***'''only if TR date not available (ie if checkbox checked), enter
****"not ready" if left location still not transfer ready
****"not available" unclear from chart if pt was transfer ready
 
{{Discuss| If a patient is declared transfer ready for LAU (Oak, VIC, etc.) then subsequently is deemed transfer ready to home (related to rapid improvement)is another transfer ready date/time entered to capture the intention to transfer to home, as home is a lower level of care than LAU? }}
 
{{DiscussTask |
Below it had said "Enter "not available" if any of the following: ...  arrived transfer ready" - is that really as intended? Wouldn't we enter the TRDT as the Boarding Loc time instead in that case?
}}
 
{{DiscussTask |
* Should "not available" be used when the pt was ready but the time is not clear, or only when no transfer ready status was indicated? What is the use case for that entry? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 09:31, 2021 February 10 (CST)
}}
 
=== initial pre-entered record ===
A first entry is added automatically to each new patient entered on the laptop.
 
The first time the patient becomes [[#Transfer Ready]], enter the date and time into this pre-entered record.  


=== additional records if there are additional [[Boarding Loc]]s ===
==== Specifically for ICU ====
For '''every''' additional [[Boarding Loc]] (whether it is at different [[Level of care hierarchy]] or not):  
'''In an ICU''', take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:
* leave the original line as is
* Care is stepped down to '''ward frequency''' (q4hrs or less) of vitals AND off '''all''' forms of life support except possibly intermittent dialysis
* enter a new {{PAGENAME}}
* [[HSC_IICU]] consult is written
** if the pt '''changes''' from ''not'' being [[#Transfer Ready]] to being [[#Transfer Ready]] during the stay at that [[Boarding Loc]] enter that dttm
* patient is made '''[[ACP C|ACP-C]]'''
** if the pt ''doesn't change '''to''' [[#Transfer Ready]] state'', enter the checkbox and "not available"
* for organ donors, see [[Guideline for coding organ donation after death]]
{{Discuss| If the pt doesn't change to a transfer ready state during a location stay, should the comment be "not ready"? The comment "not available" is indicated in above statement-is this inconsistent? Or is this comment intended for scenarios of never transfer ready patients moving from ER (higher acuity) to lower acuity medicine units whereby a transfer date/time is "not available"? }}
* if the patient is a '''potential organ donor and then deemed not to be''', the Transfer Ready tmp DtTm will be when that determination is made
* for those patients who are declared brain dead, and do '''not become actual or potential organ donors''', use the time of [[Brain death]] as the Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry, and the time of cardiac death as the [[Dispo DtTm]]


=== Patient arrives transfer ready ===
====Specifically for Medicine ====
If a patient at any [[Boarding Loc]] and is already [[#Transfer Ready]] enter the same date into [[Transfer Ready DtTm field]] as the time of the respective [[Boarding Loc]] entry.
'''On a medicine ward''', take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:
{{Discuss| For a patient declared transfer ready to home while on Medicine Unit A, then transfers to Medicine Unit B while still transfer ready is the transfer ready date/time for Unit B location equal to the arrive date/time to unit B? Or?}}
*For SBGH If there is no discharge order, then the DC summary date/time that the attending signs off can be used, however if the date and time is after the DC time then it may be documented in a nursing or allied health IPN. Also, for SBGH often bed utilization will document when they are waiting on a transfer to an LAU or other facility, or rehab services will document when they are on the central wait list, or long term care (LTC) will document when they are approved for a PCH bed.
*For HSC if there is no discharge order, then check the IPN notes (nursing, allied health etc), often bed utilization will document when they are waiting on a transfer to an LAU or other facility, or rehab services will document when they are on the central wait list, or long term care (LTC) will document when they are approved for a PCH bed. 
* Order is written to change all iv meds to po AND monitor discontinued/vital sign frequency is reduced
* Patient is made '''[[ACP C|ACP-C]]'''
* If a discharge order is written during the preceding day(s) prior to discharge:
** and a specific date and time for discharge is documented in that order, the transfer ready date and time would be the date and time specified in the order. 
** and If the order is to discharge after a specific test or procedure/treatment ie. dialysis or last dose of antibiotics, then the transfer ready date and time would be the time they finish the treatment or procedure.
** and there is no specific date and time documented for discharge or another order for discharge is written, then check the checkbox or use that new discharge order date and time


==== Patient doesn't become [[#Transfer Ready]] before leaving unit ====
* The discharge medication reconciliation form should NOT be used as transfer ready date and time.
If pt never becomes [[#Transfer Ready]], check the checkbox to say so. This is so we can be sure the entry wasn't just forgotten.  


* '''PT/OT Assessment''': Before going home, some ward patients get a home safety evaluation from PT and OT, and if deemed safe for home get a homecare evaluation before going home. The transfer ready date/time in such a situation should be only after the PT/OT evaluation has deemed them safe to go home, i.e. before homecare has seen them.  The rationale is that homecare evaluation can occur after discharge, but a hospitalized patient who “fails” their home safety evaluation will end up going to LTC, not home.
* exception to this would be for those patients that are waiting for transfer to a rehab ward (Geri, stroke, amp, neuro etc) The date and time they are placed on the wait list for rehab can be used as their transfer ready date and time


Enter either "not ready" or "not available" into the comment field so we know how to interpret the entry.
== Data entry instructions ==
* A "Transfer Ready" line is automatically created for each [[Boarding Loc]] entry.
** Project: '''Transfer Ready DtTm'''
** Item: the only available item is "Transfer Ready DtTm", just like the project entry.
** Date and Time vs checkbox:
***  Collector needs to enter one of the following:
**** '''First''' Date and Time during the stay '''at this [[Boarding Loc]]''' that patient '''became''' transfer ready as per [[#What is Transfer Ready]] above
::OR
:::* checkbox checked if a clear transfer ready date and time are never documented, both must be present to be considered a valid Transfer Ready DtTm


{{Discuss| The terms "Not ready" and "not available" need clearer definitions (perhaps with examples) as to the use of one vs the other for patients who are never transfer ready, see question above }}
{{Combined instructions for Transfer Ready DtTm and Boarding Loc}}


'''Don't check this until the patients actually leaves that [[Boarding Loc]] (either to a next one or to [[Dispo]]) and you are sure a date never became available.
=== Collection for each Boarding Loc ===
We currently only use the first entry per [[Level of care]] to calculate [[Transfer Delay]], but we collect both because:
* It gives us the flexibility to report per location if requested
* To make it easier for data collectors. This way, collectors don't have to try and go back and figure out if there was or was not a transfer ready in a prior location. They only need be concerned about the notes and orders from THIS boarding loc.


=== Status changing back and forth while on same [[Boarding Loc]] ===
== Start DtTm/Legacy ==
If a patient changes from being transfer ready back to not being transfer ready, collect the '''first''' time they are [[#Transfer Ready]] at a given [[Boarding Loc]]. If they become no longer transfer ready, leave it alone, and if they become transfer ready again at the same level of care, retain only the original Transfer Ready DtTm for that level.
We used the old [[Transfer Ready DtTm field]] '''for transfer ready dttms''' before 2020-10-15, and use this new entry for dttms after.


== Start DtTm ==
The data during the transition period for [[PatientFollow Project]] is inconsistent, so we use all the new and the old in [[Created TransferReady query]].
We used the old [[Transfer Ready DtTm]] field '''for transfer ready dttms''' before 2020-10-15, and use this new entry for dttms after.


== Data Use / Purpose ==
== Data Use / Purpose ==
Critical care and Medicine programs want to know this to better understand patient flow and bed utilization.
Critical care and Medicine programs want to know this to better understand patient flow and bed utilization.


Used to generate [[Transfer_Delay]] and [[Avoidable Days in ICU]].
Used via [[Created_TransferReady query]] and [[Created_transferDelay table]] to generate [[Transfer Delay]] and [[Avoidable Days (Critical Care)]].
 
=== How will these be matched with [[Boarding Loc]] entries, is additional data needed? ===
We will determine each [[Boarding Loc]]'s [[Level of care hierarchy]] using the [[s_level_of_care table]]. Depending on data needs we will then be able to provide [[Transfer Delay]] either by unit or by [[Level of care hierarchy | level of care]]. To provide it by level of care we would choose the first dttm after (or at) arrival to the first [[Boarding Loc]] at a given level of care.


== Background ==
== Background ==
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{{Data Integrity Check List}}
{{Data Integrity Check List}}
== Log ==
2021-07-08 - [[Change from Awaiting/delayed dx codes to Transfer Ready DtTm]] for data back to 2021-07-01


== Legacy ==
== Legacy ==
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[[Category:End-of-life related data]]

Latest revision as of 19:28, 2024 November 16

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Program: CC and Med
Requestor: internal
Collection start: 2020-10-15
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Collection instructions

What is Transfer Ready

  • The status of "transfer ready" is about the date/time of an intent to transfer a patient to lower level of care in the Level of care hierarchy if there was a bed available. Whether or not the patient actually moves does not matter, just that at some point there was an intent to move the pt. It also does not matter whether after such a determination the care team changed their minds about such a desired transfer.
  • Obviously we don't always know the team's intentions, but if they do write them down, then use that info.
    • In making this delineation, except as for the exceptions listed immediately below, only consider a clearly written intent that the team now desires the patient to be transferred to such a lower level of care.
      • In particular, when a ward patient is transferred (e.g. home) without any notes stating the team’s intention to do so in advance or even an order to discharge, collectors should not attempt to make educated guesses from the notes of when the patient was probably clinically ready to leave and the checkbox is checked.

See Level of care hierarchy for further information.

Specifically for ICU

In an ICU, take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:

  • Care is stepped down to ward frequency (q4hrs or less) of vitals AND off all forms of life support except possibly intermittent dialysis
  • HSC_IICU consult is written
  • patient is made ACP-C
  • for organ donors, see Guideline for coding organ donation after death
  • if the patient is a potential organ donor and then deemed not to be, the Transfer Ready tmp DtTm will be when that determination is made
  • for those patients who are declared brain dead, and do not become actual or potential organ donors, use the time of Brain death as the Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry, and the time of cardiac death as the Dispo DtTm

Specifically for Medicine

On a medicine ward, take the following to indicate transfer ready to a lower level of care even if they have not written that explicitly:

  • For SBGH If there is no discharge order, then the DC summary date/time that the attending signs off can be used, however if the date and time is after the DC time then it may be documented in a nursing or allied health IPN. Also, for SBGH often bed utilization will document when they are waiting on a transfer to an LAU or other facility, or rehab services will document when they are on the central wait list, or long term care (LTC) will document when they are approved for a PCH bed.
  • For HSC if there is no discharge order, then check the IPN notes (nursing, allied health etc), often bed utilization will document when they are waiting on a transfer to an LAU or other facility, or rehab services will document when they are on the central wait list, or long term care (LTC) will document when they are approved for a PCH bed.
  • Order is written to change all iv meds to po AND monitor discontinued/vital sign frequency is reduced
  • Patient is made ACP-C
  • If a discharge order is written during the preceding day(s) prior to discharge:
    • and a specific date and time for discharge is documented in that order, the transfer ready date and time would be the date and time specified in the order.
    • and If the order is to discharge after a specific test or procedure/treatment ie. dialysis or last dose of antibiotics, then the transfer ready date and time would be the time they finish the treatment or procedure.
    • and there is no specific date and time documented for discharge or another order for discharge is written, then check the checkbox or use that new discharge order date and time
  • The discharge medication reconciliation form should NOT be used as transfer ready date and time.
  • PT/OT Assessment: Before going home, some ward patients get a home safety evaluation from PT and OT, and if deemed safe for home get a homecare evaluation before going home. The transfer ready date/time in such a situation should be only after the PT/OT evaluation has deemed them safe to go home, i.e. before homecare has seen them. The rationale is that homecare evaluation can occur after discharge, but a hospitalized patient who “fails” their home safety evaluation will end up going to LTC, not home.
  • exception to this would be for those patients that are waiting for transfer to a rehab ward (Geri, stroke, amp, neuro etc) The date and time they are placed on the wait list for rehab can be used as their transfer ready date and time

Data entry instructions

  • A "Transfer Ready" line is automatically created for each Boarding Loc entry.
    • Project: Transfer Ready DtTm
    • Item: the only available item is "Transfer Ready DtTm", just like the project entry.
    • Date and Time vs checkbox:
      • Collector needs to enter one of the following:
OR
  • checkbox checked if a clear transfer ready date and time are never documented, both must be present to be considered a valid Transfer Ready DtTm

Combining Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry and Boarding Loc records

Collection for each Boarding Loc

We currently only use the first entry per Level of care to calculate Transfer Delay, but we collect both because:

  • It gives us the flexibility to report per location if requested
  • To make it easier for data collectors. This way, collectors don't have to try and go back and figure out if there was or was not a transfer ready in a prior location. They only need be concerned about the notes and orders from THIS boarding loc.

Start DtTm/Legacy

We used the old Transfer Ready DtTm field for transfer ready dttms before 2020-10-15, and use this new entry for dttms after.

The data during the transition period for PatientFollow Project is inconsistent, so we use all the new and the old in Created TransferReady query.

Data Use / Purpose

Critical care and Medicine programs want to know this to better understand patient flow and bed utilization.

Used via Created_TransferReady query and Created_transferDelay table to generate Transfer Delay and Avoidable Days (Critical Care).

Background

This isn't so much a project as a change to Transfer Ready DtTm collection to allow us to collect more than one Transfer Ready DtTm per patient-program-stay. See Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry for why we needed to change to this.

Data Integrity Checks (automatic list)

 AppStatus
Query check ICD10 needs awaiting if TR Dt and Dispo Dt on diff daysCCMDB.accdbdeclined
Query check TISS each dayCCMDB.accdbdeclined
Query check ICD10 awaiting has Transfer Ready DtTmCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check transfer DtTm during admissionCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check has transfer ready date or checkboxCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp check combined Boarding Loc and TransferReadyDtTmCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp check Boarding Loc and TransferReadyDtTm pairsCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check Transfer DtTm after paired BL and before later BLCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query Check BL TR combiner nullCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check tmp 2 BL TR S same tmCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check long transfer delayCCMDB.accdbneeds review
Function Validate Transfer Ready DtTmCCMDB.accdbretired
Function Transfer Ready DtTm vs statusCCMDB.accdbretired
Query check transfer ready tmp for each Boarding LocCCMDB.accdbretired
Query check tmp Transfer Ready not before Boarding LocCCMDB.accdbretired
Query s tmp check combined BL and TRDtTm nonsequentialCCMDB.accdbretired

Log

2021-07-08 - Change from Awaiting/delayed dx codes to Transfer Ready DtTm for data back to 2021-07-01

Legacy

Similar to the old Transfer Ready DtTm field and Transfer Ready date and time, but we eliminated special cases and differences between medicine and critical care.

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