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This project tracks where and when a patient '''arrives''' into a "borrowed bed".  
This isn't so much a project as way to track how patients physically move around the hospital. See [[Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry]] for information about it and why we needed to change it to this model.  


A "borrowed bed" is when a patient is '''not physically located''' in the place designated by the [[Service/Location]].
This project tracks where and when a patient '''arrives''' into a new physical location under the Medicine or ICU service.  
 
This project does '''not''' replace [[ICUotherService]]; we will still need this item in the event that both the bed and the service are both borrowed. Administration at STB want this data.  


== Data Collection Instructions ==
== Data Collection Instructions ==
In [[L TmpV2 table |TMP]], a "no borrow" entry will automatically be added to every new Critical Care or Medicine patient's record.
=== Sources for Boarding Loc DtTm ===
==== [[CSS]] / [[Cognos2 Unit Starter]] ====
Usually the Cognos Unit start time from [[CSS]] or [[Cognos2 Unit Starter]] can be used as [[Boarding Loc]].
* sometimes the first [[Service tmp entry]] and first and second [[Boarding Loc]] all have the same date and time; see [[#Special Case - Can't have two Boarding Locs with same DtTm]]


If the patient never ends up in a "borrowed bed" during their stay then, leave the default in Item as ''no borrow'' and also put a check mark in the checkbox. (this is to verify that there was no bed borrow, otherwise no one is sure is missed or not).
==== First set of vital signs for CC ====
If the patient does end up in a "borrowed bed", change the item to the location of the borrow and enter the rest as per below: [[#How to enter this]].  
[[ICU Curriculum]]: The first set of vital signs is used as [[Boarding Loc]] dttm for arrival on the unit for [[Critical Care program]] admissions, if it is different from the Cognos Unit Start DtTm.


Add a new tmp entry for every additional move/borrow within your centre that a patient makes during their stay at your [[Service/Location]]; including moves from borrowed location to your actual unit.
==== Erroneous Unit information in [[CSS]]/[[Cognos2 Unit Starter]] ====
Sometimes the times are not when people really show up at a location. Use what you know to be correct from chart and your knowledge of your hospital.


=== How to enter this ===
=== How to enter ===
You can use the [["make loc" button]] to generate and pre-populate these entries.
*Use tmp fields:
*Use tmp fields:
** Project: '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
** Project: '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
** Item: '''no borrow''' is the default (check off the box under column B for all patients that are '''not''' borrowing a bed).
** start_dt and start_tm:  
** Item: '''borrowed bed location''' (select the ward/unit where the bed was borrowed):
*** enter as per Cognos initially
**** For beds borrowed in an ICU, specify the actual location of the borrowed bed.
*** before setting [[RecordStatus]] to complete update the DtTm to comply with [[DtTm for First Boarding Loc and First Service]]
**** For beds borrowed in a Medicine location,
** checkbox: not used for this project <!-- was used for [[cross check]]s in data before 2020-10-15 -->
***** for borrowed bed enter your hospital's "boarding" entry, eg "HSC - boarding"
** Item:
***** enter your hospital's "Home medicine ward" when pt comes (back) to home ward, eg "GRA - Home medicine ward"
*** for the initial unit or ER and each physical move to another unit, enter the location by using the "make loc" button in [[Patient Viewer Tab Cognos ADT2]]
*** GRA - boarding (includes step-downs)
*** if a boarding location appears in COGNOS but the patient does NOT move/arrive to that boarding location, do NOT enter that boarding location.  We only capture boarding locations where the patient physically arrives (also see [[Wrong service or unit entries in Cognos]])
*** GRA - Home medicine ward
**** if the ward is not available in the dropdown, please notify Tina, Lisa, and Julie; Tina/Lisa will add the location to the dropdown and update the wiki as needed
*** GRA - recovery
{{Discuss |
*** GRA_ER (a strange thing they only do at Grace for now) - added May 2.19
**** leave what is in Cognos, the main office doesn't use this part for anything for home locations, but it can be used to crosscheck accuracy.
*** [[GRA MICU]]
***** what is this about? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 17:42, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
*** HSC - boarding (includes step-downs)
}}
*** HSC - Home medicine ward
* '''no location entered''' is the default
*** HSC  -recovery
** that entry will not be allowed in a complete record; it is automatically deleted when by Cognos Make Loc button, but needs to be removed before setting a record to complete if it is still present.
*** [[HSC_CCU]]
<!--
*** [[HSC_IICU]]
*emailed to see if this automatic entry is still useful now that things are entered with make loc button [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 13:05, 2023 January 25 (CST)
*** [[HSC_MICU]]
** We discussed this and decided to leave for now, as we don't manually delete it is populated by COGNOS when we choose the Make location button [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 13:59, 2023 February 1 (CST) -->
*** [[HSC_SICU]]
*** STB - recovery
*** STB - boarding (includes step-downs)
*** STB - Home medicine ward
*** [[STB_ACCU]]
*** [[STB_CICU]]
*** [[STB_MICU]]
** Enter start_dt: '''arrival date at borrowed bed''', under column E.
** Enter start_tm: '''arrival time at borrowed bed''', under column M.
** checkbox: '''to be checked only in case of "no borrow"


==Return from boarding Loc to own unit during same stay ==
{{Combined instructions for Transfer Ready DtTm and Boarding Loc}}
* If the patient moves back to their "home unit", or "intended unit", make another '''borrowed bed location''' entry and select your home unit, e.g. ''HSC - Home medicine ward''. Enter the date/time for this move, as above.
<!-- the above are general instructions, put any special case info below here -->
*Dispo Tab
**[[Service/Location field]] enter: '''home''' ward/unit


=== Special Case - original arrival is in "borrowed bed" ===
==== Special Case - Can't have two Boarding Locs with same DtTm ====
If pt is admitted to your physician service but the original location is from an off-ward bed, code that location [[Arrive DtTm]] = borrow date and time.
* No two different [[Boarding Loc]] records can have same start_dt and start_tm; if two locations have the same Start_DtTm in [[CSS]]/[[Cognos2 Unit Starter]] this is an error.
* The date and time for these entries must be confirmed by looking at the chart, specifically orders, flowsheets, and progress notes
{{DJ | It says:
* Change one to be off by one minute, put a note in [[Notes field]] to check boarding location to confirm the correct date and time for the boarding locations of concern.
** how does that fit in with reviewing reality in the chart?
** I don't know what you mean by this? It means you double check the correct first service and first and second boarding loc dttm [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 21:14, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
*** Well, it seems like this triggers an error check, so you pull the times a minute apart to overcome the error check and put a note to remind you to check later. So either the check should run later (on complete or send) or we shouldn't have it at all. But a check that just gets you to "tweak" the data to make it go away isn't a good idea.
* sure if you can have the cross check on completion that would be better, the prior scenario is almost always for SICU admissions from ER [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 15:51, 26 November 2025 (CST)
** Julie, do you use Boarding Loc info on incomplete charts? Would either the current collection practice, or delaying the check, mess with measures or indicators? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 22:09, 26 November 2025 (CST)
}}


The APACHE elements time frame will start in the off-ward bed location and TISS starts from the off-ward bed as well.
* This case is especially common in the context of [[DtTm for First Boarding Loc and First Service]]
{{Ex |
* Example: Not infrequently, the COGNOS data for HSC_SICU patients coming from the ER  will show the first service, first boarding location (ER) and the second boarding location (SICU) as all having the same start_DtTm. Our solution for this is to change the second boarding location (SICU) to be off by one minute.  
}}


=== Special Case - PACU ===
==== Special Case - GRA MICU boarding in GH-Emergency ====
If a bed is borrowed in PACU / post-anesthesia care / recovery unit, code this as a '''borrow'''. (i.e. <hosp> - recovery, e.g. "HSC - recovery").
''This is a case of [[Patients who appear to transfer from in-patient situation to Emergency Room]], see there for more info.
* Grace ICU boarding in ER choose Boarding Location GH-Emergency
* Grace Main ICU choose Boarding Location and GH-Intensive Care
* Grace Recovery Room (ICU) choose Boarding Location and [[GH-Recovery Room]] and enter comment Covid+ICU
* For External(SDC/NFA) ICU beds choose Boarding Loc and GH-External ICU and enter exact location in comments
* The [[Previous Location]] and [[Pre-admit Inpatient Institution]] would be <site>_med or <site>_ward


If the decision to accept to the service happens in PACU, the [[Arrive DtTm]] = the borrow date and time.  The APACHE elements are collected at PACU stay and TISS starts at PACU.
=== Special Case - Cross-program boarding ===
If a patient is accepted by one of our services, and is on an off-service ward, enter a [[Boarding Loc]] entry for that period.  


=== Special Case - From ER ===
'''For medicine pts boarding in ICU''' you can use the explicit ICU entry that applies because all CC locations are explicitly included in Boarding Loc.
Not included in this project. 
{{DJ|
*The time spent/waiting in ER is done using [[Arrive DtTm]] vs [[Accept DtTm]].
what is this sentence telling me, can I not use the specific medicine entry? Why/how? What would a new collector need to know?
**March 30.19: own ward, to own ER (under ICU physician care) then to own ICU when bed available. Started occurring at Grace- March 30.19
* I have no idea, I suppose this can happen although I have not ever seen this at any of the facilities, I believe you were the original author of this so feel free to do what you want with this [[User:Lkaita|Lisa Kaita]] 13:46, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
** Julie, do you know what this is about? If the same applies for Med as for ICU in this, then lets get rid of the confusing entry. [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 17:23, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
*** we have one  case S4_STB_Med-2892 where first3 days at SBGH ICMS then transferred to SBGH-L2CC.--[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 16:42, 18 August 2025 (CDT)  
**** What else would they use? The entry would come from Cognos, no? It's entered by drop-down, so I don't think they could enter anything but the actual entry. Is this stated here really as a reminder for you, in case this happens again? If so, would it be better to store it in L_Problems table? If it is an instruction to collectors, would you explain further what you actually intend? [[User:Ttenbergen|Ttenbergen]] 17:33, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
}}


=== Special Case - Parked ===
'''For CC patients boarding on a Med ward where we collect''', enter "GRA_Med"/"HSC_Med"/"STB_Med" as applicable. We added these boarding loc options specifically for this scenario, and they are available only for [[Critical Care program]] admissions.  
Not included.
*For patients who are [[Parked in ER]], no need an entry for these, since the ER delay will take care of them.


=== Special Case - ??? ===
 
{{Discuss|
{{Ex | This could happen if the team runs a code on a patient and accepts care for that patient, but for a period of time hasn't yet moved the patient. For Critical Care, you would enter a generic "<Site>_Med"  "<Site>_Med" (ie [[GRA_Med]], [[HSC_Med]], [[STB_Med]]) for this patient so we don't have CC collectors keeping track of where regular, boarding or covid locations are.}}
* [[ECIP]] - these ''are'' now happening, so how would we enter them?
 
* [[EMIP]] - this structure ''could'' accommodate EMIPs, but the problem is
=== Special Case - [[Visits to temporary locations]] that happen to be Boarding Locs ===
** how do we identify then (right now people take turns at some sites...
Occasionally a patient may be transferred to a location that is normally a [[Boarding Loc]] that we would enter or discharge to, however that location may be used as a temporary boarding location for a procedure.  If after reading through the chart this is in fact the case, that [[Boarding Loc]] should not be entered, as it should be regarded as though the patient were going for any procedure and then back to their home ward location.
** which collector would collect them what service/location do we collect them as? Right now we have a special service location for these...
*Sometimes [[Visits to temporary locations]] may look like boarding locations. See that page for info on making the distinction.
** how about that "service x" at HSC?
{{Ex|
Medicine patient is transferred to ICMS for a scope and is not admitted under critical care -> don't enter a [[Boarding Loc]] for ICMS
}}
}}


== Start/End Dates ==
=== Special Case - parked in ER ===
*Start: 2019-Sep-01: new admissions on and after this date.  
For further information please see
* [[Parked in ER]]
 
{{Boarding Loc, Service content}}
 
== Start/End Dates of collection ==
*CC Start: 2018-July-19 as [[Project Borrow arrive]] and has been renamed and continued as Boarding Loc starting 2019-Sep-01
*Med Start: 2019-Sep-01: new admissions on and after this date.  
*CC and Med Start Oct,1 2020 : modified according to [[PatientFollow Project]]  to include ER as boarding loc.
* 2020-12-16: [[Change of GRA location names from "our" names to EPR/Cognos names]]
* 2022-01-01: [[Change of remaining location names from "our" names to EPR/Cognos names]]
*End: there is no planned end date
*End: there is no planned end date
== data checks ==
{{Discuss |
Which if any of [[Project_Borrow_arrive#Data_Integrity_Checks_.28SMW.29]] will need to be moved over to this instead? }}


{{Data Integrity Check List}}
{{Data Integrity Check List}}
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::: where Next Arrival Date_time = Dispo Date_time if there is no more next arrival date_time.  
::: where Next Arrival Date_time = Dispo Date_time if there is no more next arrival date_time.  


The SAS program is saved in X:\Julie\SAS_CFE\CFE_macros\Bed_Borrow.sas
The SAS program is saved in S:\MED\MED_CCMED\Julie\SAS_CFE\CFE_macros\prep_Tmp_BoardServiceTransfer.sas.
*the specific macros are %BoardingLoc, %ACCUBorrow, %ICUOtherService


== Background ==
== Background ==
{{Discuss |
* Will replace [[Off ward field]] to provide more meaningful data. 
** When? }}
See [[Bed borrow]] as aggregator page for other boarding and borrow related concepts.
See [[Bed borrow]] as aggregator page for other boarding and borrow related concepts.


The concept is similar to [[EMIP]]s but we will keep the EMIP separate from this project. The current EMIP will stay the same.--[[User:JMojica|JMojica]] 10:37, 2019 September 20 (CDT)
The concept of  [[EMIP]]s which  was similar from [[Bed borrow]] and collected separately before are now collected as part of [[Boarding Loc]]. See [[EMIP#Legacy information]] information for how they were collected before/


==Related articles ==
==Related articles ==
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Latest revision as of 22:09, 26 November 2025

Projects
Active?: active
Program: CC and Med
Requestor: internal
Collection start: 2019-Sep-20
Collection end:

This isn't so much a project as way to track how patients physically move around the hospital. See Change from Service Location to Service, Boarding Loc and Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry for information about it and why we needed to change it to this model.

This project tracks where and when a patient arrives into a new physical location under the Medicine or ICU service.

Data Collection Instructions

Sources for Boarding Loc DtTm

CSS / Cognos2 Unit Starter

Usually the Cognos Unit start time from CSS or Cognos2 Unit Starter can be used as Boarding Loc.

First set of vital signs for CC

ICU Curriculum: The first set of vital signs is used as Boarding Loc dttm for arrival on the unit for Critical Care program admissions, if it is different from the Cognos Unit Start DtTm.

Erroneous Unit information in CSS/Cognos2 Unit Starter

Sometimes the times are not when people really show up at a location. Use what you know to be correct from chart and your knowledge of your hospital.

How to enter

You can use the "make loc" button to generate and pre-populate these entries.

  • Use tmp fields:
    • Project: Boarding Loc
    • start_dt and start_tm:
    • checkbox: not used for this project
    • Item:
      • for the initial unit or ER and each physical move to another unit, enter the location by using the "make loc" button in Patient Viewer Tab Cognos ADT2
      • if a boarding location appears in COGNOS but the patient does NOT move/arrive to that boarding location, do NOT enter that boarding location. We only capture boarding locations where the patient physically arrives (also see Wrong service or unit entries in Cognos)
        • if the ward is not available in the dropdown, please notify Tina, Lisa, and Julie; Tina/Lisa will add the location to the dropdown and update the wiki as needed
        • leave what is in Cognos, the main office doesn't use this part for anything for home locations, but it can be used to crosscheck accuracy.
          • what is this about? Ttenbergen 17:42, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
  • SMW


  • Cargo


  • Categories
  • no location entered is the default
    • that entry will not be allowed in a complete record; it is automatically deleted when by Cognos Make Loc button, but needs to be removed before setting a record to complete if it is still present.

Combining Transfer Ready DtTm tmp entry and Boarding Loc records

Special Case - Can't have two Boarding Locs with same DtTm

  • No two different Boarding Loc records can have same start_dt and start_tm; if two locations have the same Start_DtTm in CSS/Cognos2 Unit Starter this is an error.
  • The date and time for these entries must be confirmed by looking at the chart, specifically orders, flowsheets, and progress notes

It says:

  • Change one to be off by one minute, put a note in Notes field to check boarding location to confirm the correct date and time for the boarding locations of concern.
    • how does that fit in with reviewing reality in the chart?
    • I don't know what you mean by this? It means you double check the correct first service and first and second boarding loc dttm Lisa Kaita 21:14, 6 September 2025 (CDT)
      • Well, it seems like this triggers an error check, so you pull the times a minute apart to overcome the error check and put a note to remind you to check later. So either the check should run later (on complete or send) or we shouldn't have it at all. But a check that just gets you to "tweak" the data to make it go away isn't a good idea.
  • sure if you can have the cross check on completion that would be better, the prior scenario is almost always for SICU admissions from ER Lisa Kaita 15:51, 26 November 2025 (CST)
    • Julie, do you use Boarding Loc info on incomplete charts? Would either the current collection practice, or delaying the check, mess with measures or indicators? Ttenbergen 22:09, 26 November 2025 (CST)
  • SMW


  • Cargo


  • Categories
Example:   
  • Example: Not infrequently, the COGNOS data for HSC_SICU patients coming from the ER will show the first service, first boarding location (ER) and the second boarding location (SICU) as all having the same start_DtTm. Our solution for this is to change the second boarding location (SICU) to be off by one minute.

Special Case - GRA MICU boarding in GH-Emergency

This is a case of Patients who appear to transfer from in-patient situation to Emergency Room, see there for more info.

  • Grace ICU boarding in ER choose Boarding Location GH-Emergency
  • Grace Main ICU choose Boarding Location and GH-Intensive Care
  • Grace Recovery Room (ICU) choose Boarding Location and GH-Recovery Room and enter comment Covid+ICU
  • For External(SDC/NFA) ICU beds choose Boarding Loc and GH-External ICU and enter exact location in comments
  • The Previous Location and Pre-admit Inpatient Institution would be <site>_med or <site>_ward

Special Case - Cross-program boarding

If a patient is accepted by one of our services, and is on an off-service ward, enter a Boarding Loc entry for that period.

For medicine pts boarding in ICU you can use the explicit ICU entry that applies because all CC locations are explicitly included in Boarding Loc.

what is this sentence telling me, can I not use the specific medicine entry? Why/how? What would a new collector need to know?

  • I have no idea, I suppose this can happen although I have not ever seen this at any of the facilities, I believe you were the original author of this so feel free to do what you want with this Lisa Kaita 13:46, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
    • Julie, do you know what this is about? If the same applies for Med as for ICU in this, then lets get rid of the confusing entry. Ttenbergen 17:23, 6 August 2025 (CDT)
      • we have one case S4_STB_Med-2892 where first3 days at SBGH ICMS then transferred to SBGH-L2CC.--JMojica 16:42, 18 August 2025 (CDT)
        • What else would they use? The entry would come from Cognos, no? It's entered by drop-down, so I don't think they could enter anything but the actual entry. Is this stated here really as a reminder for you, in case this happens again? If so, would it be better to store it in L_Problems table? If it is an instruction to collectors, would you explain further what you actually intend? Ttenbergen 17:33, 19 August 2025 (CDT)
  • SMW


  • Cargo


  • Categories

For CC patients boarding on a Med ward where we collect, enter "GRA_Med"/"HSC_Med"/"STB_Med" as applicable. We added these boarding loc options specifically for this scenario, and they are available only for Critical Care program admissions.


Example:   
This could happen if the team runs a code on a patient and accepts care for that patient, but for a period of time hasn't yet moved the patient. For Critical Care, you would enter a generic "<Site>_Med"  "<Site>_Med" (ie GRA_Med, HSC_Med, STB_Med) for this patient so we don't have CC collectors keeping track of where regular, boarding or covid locations are.

Special Case - Visits to temporary locations that happen to be Boarding Locs

Occasionally a patient may be transferred to a location that is normally a Boarding Loc that we would enter or discharge to, however that location may be used as a temporary boarding location for a procedure. If after reading through the chart this is in fact the case, that Boarding Loc should not be entered, as it should be regarded as though the patient were going for any procedure and then back to their home ward location.

Example:   

Medicine patient is transferred to ICMS for a scope and is not admitted under critical care -> don't enter a Boarding Loc for ICMS

Special Case - parked in ER

For further information please see

Instructions that apply to both Boarding Loc and Service tmp entry

Special Case - Cognos data has different times for first Boarding Loc and Service tmp entry

See DtTm for First Boarding Loc and First Service

Start/End Dates of collection

Data Integrity Checks (automatic list)

 AppStatus
Check if awaiting code is primary dx then Transfer Ready DtTm must be equal to Arrive DtTmCCMDB.accdbdeclined
Query check_tmp_ER_Boarding_Loc_should_exist_if_from_ERCCMDB.accdbdeclined
Query check minimal data set incompleteCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check tmp 2 BL TR S same tmCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query Check BL TR combiner nullCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check Transfer DtTm after paired BL and before later BLCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp Boarding Loc ER delay reasonableCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check no consecutive same BL or ServiceCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check CCI TISS matching BoardingLoc timeCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check tmp Boarding Loc Service first sameCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp check Boarding Loc and TransferReadyDtTm pairsCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp check combined Boarding Loc and TransferReadyDtTmCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check transfer DtTm during admissionCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check tmp Service and Boarding Loc during admission timeframeCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query check tmp service or location duplicateCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query s tmp Boarding Loc date itemCCMDB.accdbimplemented
Query Check_VADT_too_close_to_first_boarding_locCCMDB.accdbneeds review
Query check tmp Transfer Ready not before Boarding LocCCMDB.accdbretired
Query s tmp check combined BL and TRDtTm nonsequentialCCMDB.accdbretired
Query check transfer ready tmp for each Boarding LocCCMDB.accdbretired
Query s tmp Boarding Loc no borrow but entryCCMDB.accdbretired

Data Use

Critical care and Medicine programs want to know this to better understand patient flow and bed utilization.

SAS Program

The SAS program calculates the time spent in a borrowed bed at each ICU stay and summarize the total bed-days in a given interval that are taken up by boarders from elsewhere and how much a certain unit is boarding elsewhere.

Time spent in borrowed bed = Next Arrival Date_time - First Arrival Date_time
where Next Arrival Date_time = Dispo Date_time if there is no more next arrival date_time.

The SAS program is saved in S:\MED\MED_CCMED\Julie\SAS_CFE\CFE_macros\prep_Tmp_BoardServiceTransfer.sas.

  • the specific macros are %BoardingLoc, %ACCUBorrow, %ICUOtherService

Background

See Bed borrow as aggregator page for other boarding and borrow related concepts.

The concept of EMIPs which was similar from Bed borrow and collected separately before are now collected as part of Boarding Loc. See EMIP#Legacy information information for how they were collected before/

Related articles

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